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Old 20 Jun 2004, 11:42 (Ref:1009323)   #1
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Benefactors from New Qualifying

I know i'm a montoya-phile, but I seriously think that a return to a pre-2003 style qualifying format will aid him. My evidence is the 7 poles from 2002 and only 1 from 2003!
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 11:44 (Ref:1009325)   #2
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Dani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
will help mainly Bridgestone drivers i think .. i think the one lap qualifying hurts them the most ..
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 12:08 (Ref:1009397)   #3
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Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Will help McLaren also - as their bigger fuel tank allows them to run longer first stints - which will now be a tactical option as it will no longer be penalised in qualifying.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 12:30 (Ref:1009413)   #4
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BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I'm not happy about changing the rules so drastically mid-season. The qualifying system wwas generally popular last year, the problem now is the specific change of timing between Q1 and Q2 making Friday worthless and not allowing significant set-up changes.

The fact that teams with big tanks can now benefit seems ridiculous. Building such a huge tank originally was surely a design error, that they can now be rewarded for? Maybe teams like McLaren were the most vociferous supporters of the new system?
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 13:31 (Ref:1009440)   #5
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I never support major changes such as this during a season...not even if it's at short notice just prior a season. Teams should be given allowance to make the neccessary adaption to new rules.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 16:32 (Ref:1009504)   #6
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Loss for the smaller teams though... they will hardly get on camera meaning less sponsors...
they hardly get on camera as it is during the race...
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 16:37 (Ref:1009507)   #7
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They might get seen more though as maybe more people will watch it!

In terms of performance. Winners: people who can drive fast. Losers: people who can't. A bit like now!

Other winners? Us? Back to all out laps? Well maybe.

Immediately it may help or hinder certain teams, but that could change as the relative characteristics of the cars change with development.

I guess it might help those with bigger fuel tanks because there will less of a reason to run short (first) stints. Will we go back to the long first stints?
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 17:02 (Ref:1009513)   #8
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 17:36 (Ref:1009555)   #9
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New qualifying reg's - who will benefit?

I'll open this with DC. Under the old 1 hour qualifying DC wasn't too shabby and a lot of his poor showing over the past couple of years has been down to his apparent inability to really pull that one quick lap out of the bag on the single lap that count's. Admittedly with the current bag o' nails McLaren I don't think we should expect miracles but will the 2 25 minute sessions allow him to raise his game? I think it might.

Who else do you think will gain or lose under the new system?

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Old 22 Jun 2004, 14:03 (Ref:1012111)   #12
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Other winners? Us? Back to all out laps? Well maybe.
That's for sure ! We'll have much more fun.
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Old 22 Jun 2004, 14:35 (Ref:1012157)   #13
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Aren't the times going to be aggregate? So you will actually have 4 flying laps in the two sessions, with the times of those 4 laps all to be added up to your total time? Perhaps I am wrong on that one... but if it is aggregate, then the system sucks. At least we will see some low fuel qualy laps, though.
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Old 22 Jun 2004, 14:39 (Ref:1012162)   #14
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No.

It's your quickest lap from each of the two parts which is aggregated.
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Old 22 Jun 2004, 15:41 (Ref:1012231)   #15
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Loss for the smaller teams though... they will hardly get on camera meaning less sponsors...
they hardly get on camera as it is during the race...
I think this has been thought about and Minardi and Jordan are to be featured in the 10 min break between sessions. I'm not 100% on this so can someone confirm if i'm right or wrong?
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