BTCC BTCC 2019 - Snetterton - Rounds 16, 17, 18 + testing - Page 4

redshoes · 1 Aug 2019, 12:14 (Ref:3920650)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

and no HARD driver replaced so far ? mark this event in your calendar

I know it's probably a bit early to say this, but was thinking about that as well. When was the last time we had a season that started and ended with the same drivers?

Of course, there's still plenty of time for that to change.

crmalcolm · 1 Aug 2019, 12:23 (Ref:3920652)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

I know it's probably a bit early to say this, but was thinking about that as well. When was the last time we had a season that started and ended with the same drivers?

Of course, there's still plenty of time for that to change.

Since 2000, I can only think of 2005. AFAIK, there were no driver changes during the season.
There were drivers who only completed part of the season, but this was not as replacements for others.

btccbloke · 1 Aug 2019, 13:06 (Ref:3920660)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

I know it's probably a bit early to say this, but was thinking about that as well. When was the last time we had a season that started and ended with the same drivers?

Of course, there's still plenty of time for that to change.

2014 almost until Glynn Geddie got himself sacked for a drink driving ban, i think that was closest i can remember recently.

I was really expecting a mid season shuffle from Team Hard with Carl Boardley moving back to Ginetta, Epps back to Clios and Coates up to BTCC

Sodemo · 1 Aug 2019, 13:16 (Ref:3920662)

No word yet then whether BMW have had additional performance sanctions?

crmalcolm · 1 Aug 2019, 13:17 (Ref:3920663)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

2014 almost until Glynn Geddie got himself sacked for a drink driving ban, i think that was closest i can remember recently.

I was really expecting a mid season shuffle from Team Hard with Carl Boardley moving back to Ginetta, Epps back to Clios and Coates up to BTCC

Definitely close. It also depends on how you view the other 'changes'.

Warren Scott switched from an Insignia to a CC.
Jack Goff switched teams and cars, but it was still under the BMR umbrella.
Dan Welch wasn't present at the start of the season, and Robb Holland missed a round.

By BTCC standards, a very stable grid.

RS67 · 1 Aug 2019, 13:30 (Ref:3920664)

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Originally Posted by auroan

Off back to working on my race engine on the dyno and building the rest of my shell. We had a good giggle about this thread in the workshop anyway.

I'll keep quiet from now on as I obviously know nothing about what I'm talking about.

I assume your dyno has thermocouples and pressure transducers at air inlet, pre compressor, after compressor, pre turbo, after turbo, pre intercooler, after intercooler, pre throttlebody, inlet manifold, exhaust manifold.

Alfisti · 1 Aug 2019, 17:13 (Ref:3920688)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

I know it's probably a bit early to say this, but was thinking about that as well. When was the last time we had a season that started and ended with the same drivers?

Of course, there's still plenty of time for that to change.

AFAIK all of the campers at the #HARD camp are pretty happy. Not expecting any BTCC driver changes.

I understand Mike Epps is struggling for budget to continue in the Ginetta - more so after the shunt last time out. Hopefully he'll be alright, good driver is Mike.

S griffin · 1 Aug 2019, 17:38 (Ref:3920692)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Definitely close. It also depends on how you view the other 'changes'.

Warren Scott switched from an Insignia to a CC.

Jack Goff switched teams and cars, but it was still under the BMR umbrella.

Dan Welch wasn't present at the start of the season, and Robb Holland missed a round.

By BTCC standards, a very stable grid.

Robb Holland missed the Thruxton round due to damage and his seat was due to be taken by Tony Gilham at the final round, but never happened for some reason

Also I think Belcher might have missed one after his Thruxton prang

And of course the Renault Megane never raced

crmalcolm · 1 Aug 2019, 18:02 (Ref:3920699)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Also I think Belcher might have missed one after his Thruxton prang

And of course the Renault Megane never raced

Belcher raced in every round in 2014 - although never got a point.

The Megane was never even built. Just an aspiration and mock-up of a road going car.

Pickles · 1 Aug 2019, 21:47 (Ref:3920730)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Robb Holland missed the Thruxton round due to damage and his seat was due to be taken by Tony Gilham at the final round, but never happened for some reason

Gilham didn't take part in the final round as the Audi was too badly damaged at the previous round at Silverstone.

Evantra · 2 Aug 2019, 08:33 (Ref:3920789)

http://bit.ly/2YGKGP6

More tyre nonsense...

Sodemo · 2 Aug 2019, 08:49 (Ref:3920790)

I'd much rather them be able to choose whatever tyre they wanted on whichever axle they wanted. You want to run softs on the rear and hards on the front? No problem... etc.

VIVA GT · 2 Aug 2019, 09:25 (Ref:3920796)

Other plans are:
1. Drivers to race with one had tied behind their backs.
2. To wear an eye patch for a race (selected at random by Alan Gow).
3. To wear clown shoes instead of racing boots if they qualify in the top 5.

btccbloke · 2 Aug 2019, 09:35 (Ref:3920798)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Other plans are:
1. Drivers to race with one had tied behind their backs.
2. To wear an eye patch for a race (selected at random by Alan Gow).
3. To wear clown shoes instead of racing boots if they qualify in the top 5.

To spice things up the driver quickest in qualifying will have to start from the back of the grid,
the drivers qualifying 2nd-30th are then deducted 30 grid places each for driving deliberately too slowly

Alfisti · 2 Aug 2019, 13:26 (Ref:3920827)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Other plans are:
1. Drivers to race with one had tied behind their backs.
2. To wear an eye patch for a race (selected at random by Alan Gow).
3. To wear clown shoes instead of racing boots if they qualify in the top 5.

No. 3 is what JP does anyways! Watch out for the flower in his buttonhole!

Rob877 · 2 Aug 2019, 15:26 (Ref:3920833)

Really can't be bothered with all this tyre carry on. They should've just left the weight as it was last year.

I can deal with the weight it's easy to keep an eye on and is enough of a penalty. The scenario of people winning a race then struggling to stay in the top 15 because they have to run a duff tyre just feels like too much.

I'm sure it was Donnington a couple years ago where people were like a second off the pace on the wrong tyre. I like to have something to keep the cars close and think weight does this in a good way. This is just too much for my liking.

Having said that it may work so I guess we have to give these things a chance.

pimmy · 2 Aug 2019, 16:33 (Ref:3920839)

I really don't like these tyre rules either. The racing was fine before they were introduced.

redshoes · 2 Aug 2019, 16:36 (Ref:3920840)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

the drivers qualifying 2nd-30th are then deducted 30 grid places each for driving deliberately too slowly

I'm not sure many of those drivers are being deliberately slow.

RS67 · 2 Aug 2019, 18:02 (Ref:3920848)

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Originally Posted by Rob877

I'm sure it was Donnington a couple years ago where people were like a second off the pace on the wrong tyre.

I doubt it.
None of the several places by that name have a race track and the BTCC hasn't raced on a street circuit in around 30yrs.

crmalcolm · 2 Aug 2019, 18:06 (Ref:3920849)

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Originally Posted by RS67

I doubt it.
None of the several places by that name have a race track and the BTCC hasn't raced on a street circuit in around 30yrs.

btccbloke · 2 Aug 2019, 21:13 (Ref:3920875)

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Originally Posted by RS67

I doubt it.
None of the several places by that name have a race track and the BTCC hasn't raced on a street circuit in around 30yrs.

Well he clearly means Donington Park doesn't he! its quite reasonable to assume we know where was meant!

Picking people up online about typos which make little difference to the context, and could be through dyslexia (would you single out someone with another disability for criticism?) or autocorrect, is just a bit pointless really and can knock peoples confidence about posting further.

crmalcolm · 2 Aug 2019, 21:25 (Ref:3920876)

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Originally Posted by Rob877

I'm sure it was Donnington a couple years ago where people were like a second off the pace on the wrong tyre.

Yes - 2017 when the hard tyre was way off the pace. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport-btcc/btcc-2017-donington-park-tom-ingram-leads-way-toyota

Rob877 · 2 Aug 2019, 23:24 (Ref:3920889)

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Originally Posted by RS67

I doubt it.
None of the several places by that name have a race track and the BTCC hasn't raced on a street circuit in around 30yrs.

Sorry autocorrect spoiled your week.....

Rob877 · 2 Aug 2019, 23:28 (Ref:3920890)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Yes - 2017 when the hard tyre was way off the pace. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport-btcc/btcc-2017-donington-park-tom-ingram-leads-way-toyota

Yes that's the one, most passing moves were about as satisfying as a DRS overtake in F1. I really think they're going in the wrong direction with this idea, hope to be proved wrong though.

RS67 · 3 Aug 2019, 06:41 (Ref:3920923)

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Originally Posted by Rob877

Sorry autocorrect spoiled your week.....

Unless you have a habit of spelling it wrong and your autocorrect has adjusted itself to that, it will have chosen the correct spelling for the circuit. Hope that hasn't spoiled your week.

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