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Old 17 Jun 2017, 01:26 (Ref:3742394)   #2726
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Plan is testing in Sept. and running at Petit LeMans to find gremlins before the season next year. Simon Pag as development driver.
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Old 17 Jun 2017, 01:59 (Ref:3742400)   #2727
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Plan is testing in Sept. and running at Petit LeMans to find gremlins before the season next year. Simon Pag as development driver.
As much as I'd love to see it, it seems like those days of testing at a race have gone by the wayside. Plus would it have to be homologated before other teams would not protest to block it.

I'll hold out hope i'll see it on track testing day Tuesday but in the race I'm not so sure sadly.
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Old 17 Jun 2017, 15:01 (Ref:3742759)   #2728
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Very much a maybe.
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Old 17 Jun 2017, 15:33 (Ref:3742803)   #2729
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Very much a maybe.
Agreed. I'm very aware that race miles are different, and perhaps better than testing miles. But Honda will have about the same lead time on their DPi that Cadillac did for theirs. So the car should be pretty well sorted for Daytona, even without a early-in-testing run at Petit.

Of course, I would love to see the Honda at Petit, it would definitely spice up the show and I'd hope it would push the Cadillac boys even then.

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Old 11 Jul 2017, 14:17 (Ref:3750416)   #2730
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The Honda is officially an Acura.

Guess I'll fire up the grill for that crow. Sheesh...
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Old 11 Jul 2017, 14:55 (Ref:3750427)   #2731
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Granted, all we have is the Oreca press release and the HPD and Penske formal announcement is probably still maybe a few hours away, but I'm surprised that nothing in the way of specs has been revealed as of yet.
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Old 11 Jul 2017, 14:59 (Ref:3750428)   #2732
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Granted, all we have is the Oreca press release and the HPD and Penske formal announcement is probably still maybe a few hours away, but I'm surprised that nothing in the way of specs has been revealed as of yet.
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Based on the “J35” family of engines found in Acura RDX, MDX, RLX and TLX production vehicles, the Acura AR35TT engine to be used in the ARX-05 was initially adapted for racing in a joint effort between HPD and Honda R&D Americas. Used in a variety of prototype chassis, the engine has powered class winners at the 12 Hours of Sebring (2011-13); the 24 Hours of Le Mans and LMP2 World Endurance Championship (2012); the American Le Mans Series LMP2 titles (2012-13); and the overall winners at the Rolex 24, 12 Hours of Sebring and Petit Le Mans in 2016.
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Old 11 Jul 2017, 15:14 (Ref:3750433)   #2733
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Unveiling during Monterey Classic Car week..... sweet
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 11:29 (Ref:3752765)   #2734
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Joest To Take Over Mazda DPi Programme

Whoa, where did this come from? Maybe I haven't been paying attention.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...programme.html

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Old 19 Jul 2017, 12:52 (Ref:3752783)   #2735
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Whoa, where did this come from? Maybe I haven't been paying attention.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...programme.html

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/ju...n-be-unlocked/
It was a surprise to about everyone! Good to see what the package will be capable of in the right hands.
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 13:05 (Ref:3752786)   #2736
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It was a surprise to about everyone! Good to see what the package will be capable of in the right hands.
I don't want to be so rude as to say that SpeedSource sucked rhino testes after Rolex dropped the Mazda RX8s .... I don't want to say they couldn't set up a prototype, or even pull off a Prototype pit stop .... or that they wasted the talent of a bunch of very quick and talented drivers .... or voice any of the other negative but accurate observations I could make.

I think the contrast between Mazda 2018 and Mazda 2015-2017 will say everything one would want to say.

The biggest potential stumbling block and the biggest source of interest, is definitely the lame AER power plant which has been failing in prototype classes in various series for half-a-dozen years at least.

I'd like to see Joest demand a V6.
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 13:08 (Ref:3752788)   #2737
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I don't want to be so rude as to say that SpeedSource sucked rhino testes after Rolex dropped the Mazda RX8s .... I don't want to say they couldn't set up a prototype, or even pull off a Prototype pit stop .... or that they wasted the talent of a bunch of very quick and talented drivers .... or voice any of the other negative but accurate observations I could make.

I think the contrast between Mazda 2018 and Mazda 2015-2017 will say everything one would want to say.

The biggest potential stumbling block and the biggest source of interest, is definitely the lame AER power plant which has been failing in prototype classes in various series for half-a-dozen years at least.

I'd like to see Joest demand a V6.
I'm interested to see if there is a weight issue, and if it can be solved. It was mentioned during le mans on a Dutch TV interview iirc, that the Riley was stated to be significantly overweight.
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I'm interested to see if there is a weight issue, and if it can be solved. It was mentioned during le mans on a Dutch TV interview iirc, that the Riley was stated to be significantly overweight.
Lots of interesting angles here. No doubt Joest have done their homework before signing up so they must think they can get something out of this car.

Will it be a help to teams running non-DPi Rileys? Maybe not immediatley if they are locked into the homologation period, but come the mid-life update, it could be useful.
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I'm interested to see if there is a weight issue, and if it can be solved. It was mentioned during le mans on a Dutch TV interview iirc, that the Riley was stated to be significantly overweight.
I had heard 60 kg overweight but I had thought if was the P2 ... didn't hear it was also the DPi. I figured Mazda would have taken care of that.

If not ... Joest is pretty good, we will see.
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I had heard 60 kg overweight but I had thought if was the P2 ... didn't hear it was also the DPi. I figured Mazda would have taken care of that.

If not ... Joest is pretty good, we will see.
You're right it was the P2 but I think the Mazda shares most mechanicals with that car, and I doubt the extra weight is in the body and motor.
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If Mazda wants to leave the 4 in line aside and opt for a v6, what are their options? The only one I found is the MZI, but it is basically a Ford Cyclone engine.

However, to develop an engine takes lot of time, so if they want to change it will take until 2019.
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AER already does a turbo V6 they can badge.
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If you are referring to the P60 which Rebellion and ByKolles ran, I distinctly remember that engine blew up or caught fire on multiple occasions. It would be a perfect fit for Speedsource, not so much for Joest.
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The one from LMP1? Is based on a stock block?
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Mazda should bump the engine to 2.5L as that is their 'big' engine and their philosophy is to stay in the realm of their 'brand' (per se).










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Does Mazda offer a V6 on the street any more? Think the Mazda 6 and CX-9s both use the 2.5(?)L engines and is there anything bigger they sell? Might make their entire marketing plan useless if they have to admit defeat and drop a V6 in it.
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Mazda stopped offering the Ford Cyclone V6 in the CX-9 in favor of a turbocharged 2.5 liter 4 cylinder as of 2015. I think that Mazda now offers only four cylinder engines in all their cars now.
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Mazda's road cars are indeed all 4-cylinder now, but there is talk of a special edition MX-5 with a turbo V6. It's still on the drawing board at best however and is likely just a hopeful dream of people who want the extra weight of the metal-top version of the new MX-5 offset with MORE POWER.

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Turbo V6 MX-5 sounds absolutely bonkers. I like it.
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