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View Poll Results: Who is the driver of the Australian Grand Prix for you?
Rosberg 9 7.14%
Ricciardo 11 8.73%
Magnussen 65 51.59%
Button 3 2.38%
Alonso 0 0%
Bottas 32 25.40%
Hulkenberg 1 0.79%
Raikkonen 0 0%
Vergne 0 0%
Kvyat 3 2.38%
Perez 0 0%
Sutil 0 0%
Gutierrez 0 0%
Chilton 0 0%
Bianchi 0 0%
Grosjean 0 0%
Maldonado 0 0%
Ericsson 0 0%
Vettel 0 0%
Hamilton 0 0%
Massa 0 0%
Kobayashi 2 1.59%
Webber 0 0%
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 17:16 (Ref:3380661)   #26
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Either Bottas or Magnussen. It was Magnussen's debut and he got the podium but Bottas didn't panic after hitting the wall, kept his head and got his car back to the pits and then proceded to carve his way through the field. I think that merits DTR.
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 19:30 (Ref:3380717)   #27
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Magnussen for me. Kept his head while all around were losing theirs. Very impressed with that.
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 20:39 (Ref:3380753)   #28
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It's funny because Bottas has probably never ever been considered as DOTR in his entire career in F1. Suddenly give him a decent car that can overtake others, and he's DOTR? Did his actual talent really improve that much over xmas? Nope, only the car did. It's hard to tell at this stage how good the Williams is since Massa went out. But I was rooting for Bottas all throughout the race.

DOTR for me goes to Magnussen. The commentators were often comparing it to Hamiltons debut in 2007, but the situation is a wee bit different. Hamilton had 10000s of kms testing and was in a top 2 team well ahead of everyone else. Magnussen's in a team that wasn't even close to a podium all last season, and a car which they thought was going to drift back in the dry.

Kyvat impressed me too, a top 10 straight from Gp3. It makes Vergne look even more average because Kyvat probably could have passed him near the end if he really wanted to.

It might not have been the absolute best drives on the day (who knows who truly got the best out of their car, could have been Chilton!), but considering they were rookies, they were very impressive debuts.
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 20:50 (Ref:3380760)   #29
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Has to be Magnussen. What a debut - awesome.
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 21:55 (Ref:3380798)   #30
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It's funny because Bottas has probably never ever been considered as DOTR in his entire career in F1. Suddenly give him a decent car that can overtake others, and he's DOTR? Did his actual talent really improve that much over xmas? Nope, only the car did. It's hard to tell at this stage how good the Williams is since Massa went out. But I was rooting for Bottas all throughout the race.

DOTR for me goes to Magnussen. The commentators were often comparing it to Hamiltons debut in 2007, but the situation is a wee bit different. Hamilton had 10000s of kms testing and was in a top 2 team well ahead of everyone else. Magnussen's in a team that wasn't even close to a podium all last season, and a car which they thought was going to drift back in the dry.

Kyvat impressed me too, a top 10 straight from Gp3. It makes Vergne look even more average because Kyvat probably could have passed him near the end if he really wanted to.

It might not have been the absolute best drives on the day (who knows who truly got the best out of their car, could have been Chilton!), but considering they were rookies, they were very impressive debuts.
Ditto exactly ^

It really does go to show how much of it is down to the car.

Race aside, one thing that really impressed me was Ricciardos performance in qualifying while Seb excused his poor performance with that he had a map issue. I dont get that... Does that mean RBR forgot to upload a wet weather map on Sebs car? To me it just looked like Dan had the superior driving style for the conditions, short shifting much more, while the rattled quad wdc Seb was trying to wring its neck, struggling to adapt, perhaps forgetting he didn't have exhaust blowing any longer and looked much more a rookie than probably all of the new guys on the grid today.

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Old 16 Mar 2014, 22:06 (Ref:3380804)   #31
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if it's not Bottas, I demand a recount of the votes
Bouncing off the wall did kind of ruin his score ever so slightly!

Or are you including entertainment value?
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 22:24 (Ref:3380808)   #32
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Ditto exactly ^

It really does go to show how much of it is down to the car.

Race aside, one thing that really impressed me was Ricciardos performance in qualifying while Seb excused his poor performance with that he had a map issue. I dont get that... Does that mean RBR forgot to upload a wet weather map on Sebs car? To me it just looked like Dan had the superior driving style for the conditions, short shifting much more, while the rattled quad wdc Seb was trying to wring its neck, struggling to adapt, perhaps forgetting he didn't have exhaust blowing any longer and looked much more a rookie than probably all of the new guys on the grid today.
Well, except it's not "Seb excused his poor performance with".
It's "Seb complained on the radio of lack of power and drivability and then both his team AND Renault confirmed software issues affected the performance of the car during both qualifying and the race and are trying to solve them for the next GP".

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112964
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 22:31 (Ref:3380813)   #33
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Kimi.....but I voted Bottas.
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 22:41 (Ref:3380820)   #34
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Well, except it's not "Seb excused his poor performance with".
It's "Seb complained on the radio of lack of power and drivability and then both his team AND Renault confirmed software issues affected the performance of the car during both qualifying and the race and are trying to solve them for the next GP".

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112964

Fair enough, if RB AND Renault say that then its probably true. Thanks for the link.
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Old 16 Mar 2014, 23:27 (Ref:3380838)   #35
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Fair enough, if RB AND Renault say that then its probably true. Thanks for the link.
Yep, "AND", like "even Renault confirmed it"
Renault doesn't like to be blamed for RBR struggles as we've seen in the past, that's why I believe it's true.

A lot of people has been fast to put Seb down based on his performance this weekend, but the truth is we couldn't see his performance at all.
It's only fair to wait until both drivers adapt and have a trouble free weekend to compare them and then maybe start all the "Vettel is nothing w/o a blown diffuser" blablabla
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Old 17 Mar 2014, 04:44 (Ref:3380922)   #36
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You don't go from being a 4 time champ to lapping 20 secs off the pace in the race, without it being an issue in the car. Unless his gf was driving the car.

Vettels a great driver in the wet, and the way he was going beyond the limit in quali and yet still 1-2.5s per lap slower than Ricciardo, you can't say there's nothing wrong with the car there.

What I find surprising is RB's inability to fix it. Vettels side of the garage might as well have packed up after quali and gone home, he had no chance in the race. Or chuck the engine and get a penalty out of the way, since he was starting so far back anyway.
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Old 17 Mar 2014, 05:19 (Ref:3380925)   #37
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There was a massive problem with his car. You could hear it missing and spluttering out of the corners. It wasn't accelerating.

I've seen a couple of negative comments about Button. I really don't understand it. He did great, started 11th and made his way up to 4th. Sure his quali could have been better but his racing was great. Only 2 other drivers made up more places and you could argue one of them was only through attrition.
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Old 17 Mar 2014, 06:34 (Ref:3380939)   #38
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Old 17 Mar 2014, 07:00 (Ref:3380942)   #39
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How does someone who ruins his race bouncing off a wall get a DOTR vote???!
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I've seen a couple of negative comments about Button. I really don't understand it. He did great, started 11th and made his way up to 4th. Sure his quali could have been better but his racing was great. Only 2 other drivers made up more places and you could argue one of them was only through attrition.[/QUOTE]

Kimi knackered JB's qualy, as he did Vettel's. He'd already demonstrated his pace, and without the yellow flag he'd have been in Q3 and up there at the front. His s/c pit stop was a brilliant piece of opportunism which made him up three places. He's there to finish races and score points for the team. There was no point in him going doolally trying to catch Mag, in an identical car. As it is, they're leading the WCC. I'm sure Ron's delighted...
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How does someone who ruins his race bouncing off a wall get a DOTR vote???!
That's the only reason he didn't get my DOTR vote. But let's give him some credit: he was fast, and he didn't panic when the incident with the wall pushed him way down the field.
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How does someone who ruins his race bouncing off a wall get a DOTR vote???!
I voted for him largely for the way he didn't let that faze him, got his act together and pulled himself back up into the points.
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Who are the clowns who've voted for Kobacrashi?! I know it seems it wasn't his fault after all but still....
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I echo the comments about Bottas - he was exciting to watch and it is great to see Williams towards the front again, but Bottas was the author of his own downfall, and he looked absolutely gutted after the race.

DOTR - no.
Most exciting drive of the race - probably.
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Magnussen. First F1 race, no botched start, no botched pitstops, drove a composed race and didn't let the car get away from him at any point. Obviously not phased by any of it.
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I've seen a couple of negative comments about Button. I really don't understand it. He did great, started 11th and made his way up to 4th. Sure his quali could have been better but his racing was great. Only 2 other drivers made up more places and you could argue one of them was only through attrition.
Button for me.

sentiment got the better of me as my heart went out to the guy given his off season and what i can only imagine was a difficult and strange first race weekend back.
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Has to be Magnussen - cool, quick, mistake-free drive on debut.

Rosberg - faultless in the race, but let down in qualifying.
Button - faultless in the race, but let down in qualifying.
Bottas - great, but he did make a rather large error.
Kvyat - pretty good, but not quite as good as Magnussen
Ricciardo - error free, great qualifying, but DQ (not his fault) shadows the result slightly.

So it has to be Magnussen in my book.
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