[V8SC10R01&02] Abu Dhabi, Yas Marina (Merged x1) INCL SPOILERS! - Page 24

STEALTHY · 25 Feb 2010, 21:01 (Ref:2640555)

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Originally Posted by Matt

I have to say this.

Courtney should not have given back the spot after he tapped Holdsworth going into the dippy little chicane hairpin thing at the end of the back straight.

That was one of the cleanest applications of the bump and run that I have ever seen, and he should not have had to give the spot back in fear of penalty.

This isn't nascar. In our series, when you 'push to pass' thats an illegal move.

Now we just need the rule enforced on certain other drivers, Giz being the main one who seems to have 1000 get out of jail free cards.

Matt · 25 Feb 2010, 23:25 (Ref:2640614)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

No, its called forcing the guy to out-drive another guy and pass him without hitting him, you know how skilled racing drivers and not NASCAR hicks do it.

Really, cause I seem to remember it happened QUITE a lot back in the 90's and early to mid 2000's in the V8's.

Chatters · 25 Feb 2010, 23:48 (Ref:2640621)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Really, cause I seem to remember it happened QUITE a lot back in the 90's and early to mid 2000's in the V8's.

No, V8 guys have what has been referred to as a "love tap", ever so slightly nudging the car in front (usually mid turn) just to unsettle the guy in front and try and pressure him into a move. It's the same as darting out from behind someone under braking when there is never a passing opportunity or flashing the headlights, it's high-pressure stuff and sooner or later someone's got to crack (unless you're Steven Richards, who doesn't need a car behind him to make him run off the road).

I saw a "bump and pass" watching Fox Sports' coverage of the Daytona Nationwide race and that ended up taking out half the field.

promax · 26 Feb 2010, 00:11 (Ref:2640632)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

The sportwagon was a chance......and just imagine if the B12hr cars had parity applied (like another category I can think of) there could be even more possibilities.

LMAO dream on

cavvy · 26 Feb 2010, 00:25 (Ref:2640640)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

No, its called forcing the guy to out-drive another guy and pass him without hitting him, you know how skilled racing drivers and not NASCAR hicks do it.

given Marcos is yet to consistently run top 10, how do you rank our V8 guys against NASCAR hicks .

Matt · 26 Feb 2010, 00:36 (Ref:2640642)

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Originally Posted by Chatters

I saw a "bump and pass" watching Fox Sports' coverage of the Daytona Nationwide race and that ended up taking out half the field.

That's bump drafting gone wrong. Bump drafting is something completely different to the love tap/bump and run.

retro · 26 Feb 2010, 01:00 (Ref:2640650)

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Matters carried over From Abu Dhabi:

Following an investigation and an admission by Daniel Gaunt Car #30, that he had driven in a careless manner, contact on Car #7 Todd Kelly, the Stewards imposed the penalty of the loss of 10 Championship Points.

Five other incidents were investigated but no breach of rules was established

bluesport · 26 Feb 2010, 01:31 (Ref:2640657)

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Originally Posted by promax

LMAO dream on

Not dreaming at all.......with the leading 2 cars pressuring each other they could have taken themselves out.......or mechanical failure, boost irregularity found in scrutineering. If the race hadn't finished behind the safety car and they had raced to the end......there was no pressure on the sportwagon, great strategy by those guys.

Axeman444 · 26 Feb 2010, 03:02 (Ref:2640672)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

what is to be investigated with the CL/v. Giz incident? 2 wide into a corner, racing incident, move on...

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Originally Posted by RotorFan

Wrong on all counts. Van G used Clowndes to get around the corner, that was avoidable contact.

obviously...

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Originally Posted by retro

...Matters carried over From Abu Dhabi:
Five other incidents were investigated but no breach of rules was established

sizzle · 26 Feb 2010, 03:20 (Ref:2640677)

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Originally Posted by retro

Quote:
Matters carried over From Abu Dhabi:

Following an investigation and an admission by Daniel Gaunt Car #30, that he had driven in a careless manner, contact on Car #7 Todd Kelly, the Stewards imposed the penalty of the loss of 10 Championship Points.

Five other incidents were investigated but no breach of rules was established

Was that the incident where Gaunt carelessly let Toddler slam him in the door and then bulldoze the Gulf Western car off the road?

D.R.T. · 26 Feb 2010, 03:25 (Ref:2640679)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Why? He didn't intentionally take him out, and they both carried on.

I guess you could call it the pussification of racing when you're no longer allowed to do that.

I am with you Matt. V8 Supercar these days is sanitised beyond belief.

For a category apparently so interested in 'entertainment' they are failing this principle while they jump on every little thing that happens on track. No wonder they know need so many bands/artists to attract an audience.

The BTCC in the mid 90's - now that was racing and entertaining.

Green Hornet · 26 Feb 2010, 03:50 (Ref:2640689)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

The BTCC in the mid 90's - now that was racing and entertaining.

Obviously you only ever watched the BTCC on TV and never actually went to a race meeting?

D.R.T. · 26 Feb 2010, 03:58 (Ref:2640691)

Unfortunately travelling to the UK for me in the mid 90's wasn't to much of an option. So yes it was TV for me. Didn't seem to diminish the quality of racing or entertainment though?

Mixer · 26 Feb 2010, 04:14 (Ref:2640695)

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Originally Posted by sizzle

Was that the incident where Gaunt carelessly let Toddler slam him in the door and then bulldoze the Gulf Western car off the road?

I am HOPING this is a different incident, what you're talking about surely cannot be Gaunt's fault, as Todd came out of the pits and Gaunt would have had no idea Todd was there, Todd should have just backed out of it there, and he SHOULD have been penalised for hitting Gaunt in the side!

That pit lane exit was a bit of a shocker but most people like Lowndes had discretion as the better part of valour....

SSbaby · 26 Feb 2010, 04:29 (Ref:2640696)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

The BTCC in the mid 90's - now that was racing and entertaining.

You mean, BTCC is no longer "racing and entertaining"?

Mixer · 26 Feb 2010, 04:49 (Ref:2640700)

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Originally Posted by SSbaby

You mean, BTCC is no longer "racing and entertaining"?

Its still entertaining, but its a shadow of what it was in the 90's IMO.

SSbaby · 26 Feb 2010, 05:10 (Ref:2640701)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Its still entertaining, but its a shadow of what it was in the 90's IMO.

So what's gone wrong? Don't tell me people are getting bored with motorsport the world over!

Axeman444 · 26 Feb 2010, 05:15 (Ref:2640704)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

I am HOPING this is a different incident

... I don't believe it is...

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Originally Posted by Mixer

what you're talking about surely cannot be Gaunt's fault, as Todd came out of the pits and Gaunt would have had no idea Todd was there, Todd should have just backed out of it there, and he SHOULD have been penalised for hitting Gaunt in the side!

That pit lane exit was a bit of a shocker but most people like Lowndes had discretion as the better part of valour....

with you 100% on that, although others don't believe so... obviously

ford71 · 26 Feb 2010, 06:40 (Ref:2640725)

I just had to re-read the post that states it was Gaunt that was penalised.

I was always expecting Todd to receive the penalty and read it as such.

That is a ridiculous call and I was disappointed in Todd's driving all weekend but that incident most of all.

sizzle · 26 Feb 2010, 08:36 (Ref:2640768)

Just perusing the stewards reports and there are no other Toddler/Gaunt incidents.

I can't work out how Gaunt can be at fault for that!

rdmdog · 26 Feb 2010, 09:30 (Ref:2640796)

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Originally Posted by retro

Quote:
Matters carried over From Abu Dhabi:

Following an investigation and an admission by Daniel Gaunt Car #30, that he had driven in a careless manner, contact on Car #7 Todd Kelly, the Stewards imposed the penalty of the loss of 10 Championship Points.

Five other incidents were investigated but no breach of rules was established

...

I cant see why they let him keep his license, clearly he isn't up to the grade of the Kelly boys..........

**Woolley** · 27 Feb 2010, 00:08 (Ref:2641240)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Unfortunately travelling to the UK for me in the mid 90's wasn't to much of an option. So yes it was TV for me. Didn't seem to diminish the quality of racing or entertainment though?

About the time I stopped doing BTCC. May as well watch the dodgems at the fairground. Appalling driving standards and poor sportsmanship. Sure, it was bad that he took you out like that, but you did it to someone else last week - not much point in complaining to me.

promax · 27 Feb 2010, 03:41 (Ref:2641287)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Not dreaming at all.......with the leading 2 cars pressuring each other they could have taken themselves out.......or mechanical failure, boost irregularity found in scrutineering. If the race hadn't finished behind the safety car and they had raced to the end......there was no pressure on the sportwagon, great strategy by those guys.

or if 3/4 of the field didn't finish.. a Daewoo couldn't won *rolls eyes*

sizzle · 8 Mar 2010, 02:47 (Ref:2647169)

Well knock me down with a feather, I was mistakenly thinking they were going there for a motor race. Now the real prima donnas are showing.

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