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18 Nov 2004, 03:22 (Ref:1156687) | #1 | |
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Liuzzi in F1 99% sure
was talking with someone at an airport today who is right in there about this situation and he said Vitantonio Liuzzi will almost for certian be in one of the red bull cars... other seat is the question...
p.s- a one day F1 test for a no name or gentlemen driver with a tail end team costs USD400k+ for one day |
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where do you ge this info? you sound connected to some really important people.
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I'd be extremely happy for him, a good revenge against Sauber
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18 Nov 2004, 09:43 (Ref:1156848) | #4 | ||
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I'm sure he'd do really well, as long as they give him a more experienced team-mate than Klien.
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Liuzzi and Klien will be a perfectly fine pairing for next year IMO.
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18 Nov 2004, 10:45 (Ref:1156909) | #6 | ||
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Liuzzi and Coultard would be cool.. DC could bring a big name and may do better in a new environment... would also be cool to see AJ have a shot or davidson if he doesn't pull off the williams thing... klien is is good but had a chance and never really stood out much, just good and not anything special and F1 should be made up of specials.
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Heidfeld might be the best option of all, but DC would be great as well. Klien needs someone alongside him to help him develop, especially as he reached F1 so young and quickly.
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18 Nov 2004, 11:14 (Ref:1156936) | #8 | |
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When we see Webber in a decent car I reckon we'll re-assess Klien and see that he did pretty well, but that Webber made him look less good.
If F1 should not include drivers from the nothing special category, how come DC's name gets in the frame? |
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On his day DC is more special than most of the grid, though I concede that he is probably passed his best now. A change of team might revitalise him, though I would prefer to see Heidfeld in a top car. |
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18 Nov 2004, 13:02 (Ref:1157009) | #10 | |
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Red Bull need to do a lot of aggressive development, and quickly. The Jaguar was never a good car, and the worst mistake they made was to go conservative with the design after they got embarassed by trying the opposite.
So - I do agree that experience would be a welcome thing - but DC strikes me as somewhat negativefor all his experience, and that's certainly something they don't need. I agree that Heidfeld deserves something and would do a good job. Alex Wurz should be getting his name on the shortlist too, but F1 seems to have passed him by nowadays. |
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Coulthard, Davidson and Wurz are all being checked out by Tony Purnell.
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Is Heidfeld in contention? Perhaps Purnell feels that he will get the Williams drive ahead of Davidson? In terms of 'aggressive development', Wurz might be the best choice, especially as I'm sure he's very hungry to return to racing, but I doubt McLaren would want to lose his Friday services?
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If Davidson gets the Williams drive, I'd employ Coulthard and Liuzzi for 2005.
Liuzzi has a lot of pace, Coulthard has a whole "databank" of experience which will help a team young in its development. Two inexperienced drivers are not the way to go. Even if you don't think DC is a sharp-end-of-the-grid superstar anymore, he's the ideal man for a project like this. |
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That's basically the case for DC summed up precisely KB. Maybe this thread needs to go back towards simply discussing Liuzzi's apparent drive, not the driver line up in general, as there's another thread for that.
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I think Liuzzi will definitely have one of the seats - question is bascially whether it's as race driver or test driver.
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18 Nov 2004, 17:33 (Ref:1157212) | #18 | ||
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If DC does get one of the Red Bull seats, I hope Liuzzi becomes tester and gets the race seat in 2006.
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Good plan!
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Impressive though Fisichella and Ralf were, it was Hill and Frentzen who took the big results for Jordan at the time. And both Nick and Kimi have that kind of steady, patient, analytical personality that is good for development. Besides, Red Bull need to establish themslves in mid-field before they can start really looking forward.
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19 Nov 2004, 20:46 (Ref:1158592) | #23 | |
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That's the beauty of hindsight. When Sauber signed Kimi, no one quite knew whether he'd sink or swim while Heidfeld had just come off an equally disappointing rookie season as the one Klien has just had.
As for DC, I suppose it depends how high you rate him. Above all else, a team wants a good peddler in the seat and I don't think he's made too good a case for himself this year. |
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