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And they have to miss a couple of the races?
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That means LMP2 is most likely as good as dead now, apart from Daytona and Sebring?
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It is a shame for the LMP2. We were starting to have an interest from good European teams such as United Autosports or DC Racing. Other as Panis-Barthez Compétition were also thinking about having a go at the 24H of Daytona
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I think that's most of it, think we'll only see LMP2s at the endurance events. Which is basically when we would see decent fields with the Euro teams coming over
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The solution is simple: Allow performance improvements (relatively easy to accomplish with BoP, no need for bigger engines or aero development) to the P2s to keep 'm competitive with the DPi-s - so they can vie for the overall win. Keep the Am requirement for a 'LMPC' award + LM invites but let teams run an all pro line up if they wish (United for example).
The Am requirement could be applied to DPi-s as well if teams wish to cater to gentlemen driver wishes (like Core). It won't change anything for P2s competing outside IMSA or eligible cars for LM (the IMSA invite goes to the driver - not the team or car) so no need for the ACO to throw a fit. Last edited by Coach Ep; 9 Dec 2018 at 18:26. |
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I think the series thought that more people would show up if they separated the classes, but that hasn't happened. If they really wanted to kill the lmp2 crowd though they would have kept them as a part of the Proto class and just made the DPi's faster. |
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As for speeding up 'DPi', if you listened to the Pruett-Goodwin podcast this year you'll see that those teams don't want to spend any more time and money on anything, much as with the old Daytona Prototype ideology
Anyway the should just make LMP2 (and IMO LMP3) classes eligible for Daytona/Sebring/PLM only and allow them to run whatever drivers they wished, there's enough of proam in the world already. The cars might be fairly sterile and boring but at least it's not BoP nonsense and rebranding like in the other class |
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I think they're going to have to bop the cars extra this coming season to be faster than lmp2 and not miles away from the Cadillacs.
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But four cars may still be possible - apparently BAR1 is still looking to get a program and Performance Tech may be seeking sponsorship for a possible second entry. They pretty much have until the Roar to get things sorted, and with the car count on the lighter side they might be able to entice some paying am drivers a bit more easily. This means there was potential for as many as six LMP2s had Patron not withdrawn from racing. Not the healthiest of class numbers, but not awful in a four-class championship. |
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I wondered about this as well. I thought I remember hearing in some other interviews that the DPi cars won't be much (if any) faster than they currently are. Then I wondered if we look back at the last 2 seasons of bop changes, can we track how much heavier, more restricted, less fuel, etc. are the dpi's than they were before? Is that worth a second or two?
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PMR is staying in IMSA GTD with Sellers and Ryan Hardwick, Super Trofeo NA and world champion, Corey Lewis in for the enduros as well. Same chassis as this season updated to the EVO spec.
Park Place is back to full season in GTD with Long and Lindsey again. Plus a GT4 in Michelin as well. |
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Actually if you're going to run a standalone LMP2 class, 100% the most logical thing you can do is not do that stupid Le Mans conflicting race in Detroit like GTE. I've said in the past how the eligibility of DPi at Le Mans is irrelevant because the cars would never actually be freighted to France anyways, but now it's actually possible for the LMP2 teams and using the same rules as Le Mans actually accomplishes what it's supposed to.
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Pla and Bernhard may be in line for a Mazda drive this year:
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/b...-joest-drives/ Also in the article, Spirit of Daytona is set to announce their 2019 plans soon. Not sure what that means. they have run a Riley, Ligier, and Caddy thus far, is a P2 return in the works? or did they find support for the Caddy? |
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Not counting on SoD at this stage - anything other than a no show would be a pleasant surprise! Too bad, the blue Caddy was the best looking car of the field last year (minus the awful looking tire rack sponsorship decals). |
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https://www.facebook.com/DaytonaInte...4990415031027/
First video surfaces from the DIS facebook page of todays IMSA Michelin test. The first car to pass by the camera is the 911 *EDIT* I haven't heard anything from Turner Motorsport about their 2019 plans, but this picture makes me hopeful that they are committed to a full season next year. (Taken from their FB page from today's IMSA test at Daytona) https://scontent.fbos1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...11&oe=5C9DC44D From twitter....a full body shot of the new AIM Lexus livery. Very nice!! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuJPyNyWsAEJ8BI.jpg:large Last edited by Nick Woodbury; 11 Dec 2018 at 15:26. |
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AgustĂ*n Canapino trying the Junco's Cadillac for the first time. Everything new for all them.
https://twitter.com/Campeonesnet/sta...50252483313664 Will Owen trying a bit of spanish at the end of the brief https://twitter.com/AgustinCanapino/...32088329510914 Spanish explanation about FCY from Ricardo Juncos to Canapino https://twitter.com/juncosracing/sta...41863087927296 Last time an argentinian was at Daytona 24hs after Oscar Larrauri and Juan Manuel Fangio II, was in 1993, when there was a group of drivers drove two Oldsmobile Cultass Supreme from Kreider Racing Enterprises. . Last edited by Damian Baldi; 11 Dec 2018 at 18:14. |
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