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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:03 (Ref:1980455)   #1
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The Alonso blocking/penalty thread (AKA The rage is on !) [MERGED]
Beautiful. That's what happens when you expect team mates to be nice. McLaren have another Prost/Senna problem - awesome!
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:04 (Ref:1980456)   #2
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Yep,

Can't beat him on the track so use any other means. If Lewis takes that view he'll be ok.
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Old 13 Aug 2007, 11:54 (Ref:1987466)   #3
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Alonso will beat Hamiliton to the 07 title. Lewis has not got the agggression that is required to be a Championship winner at the moment - next year maybe
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if Alonso loses the title this year, I will hold you personally responsible....
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Old 13 Aug 2007, 18:10 (Ref:1987701)   #6
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if Alonso loses the title this year, I will hold you personally responsible....
The FIA will be pleased to hear that!
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Old 13 Aug 2007, 19:29 (Ref:1987812)   #7
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if Alonso loses the title this year, I will hold you personally responsible....
But he will lose according to the synopsis of leading sports writer Frank Worrall's book on Lewis (yet to be published) advertised on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lewis-Hamilt...7032385&sr=8-2

The synopsis reads "Lewis Hamilton crowned his 2007 debut season by winning the title in Japan in October ... It was an outcome no one seriously could have predicted". Perhaps Frank wasn't being serious .....
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:04 (Ref:1980457)   #8
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Alonso was very clever? Perhaps, he was also very cheap though. IMO.
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Brilliant. Love it.

A proper rivalry at last.
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:10 (Ref:1980473)   #10
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Brilliant. Love it.

A proper rivalry at last.
YES, Brilliant!

Bring back the 'Mclaren cold war' year from the late 80's!
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Let's not forget that young Lewis started it all by steadfastly refusing to adhere to the agreement that Alonso would be allowed out first since he had a lighter fuel load.

Hamilton was let go first because 'his engine was the first to reach optimum temperature', apparently. Huh? Merc have just spent zillions developing an engine which can sit and tick over till hell freezes over (which enabled Hamilton to re-join the European GP at the Ring...).

It's all good stuff, though. I wonder how many times Ron has been told to 'swivel' by one of his drivers --a protege and number two to boot? Sets the tone for contract/retainer negotiations for '09, I'd have thought.

Roll on the next installment.
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It's all good stuff, though. I wonder how many times Ron has been told to 'swivel' by one of his drivers --a protege and number two to boot? Sets the tone for contract/retainer negotiations for '09, I'd have thought.
I'd be very surprised if those words at that time caused Ron much grievance. Nothing that a chat and an apology would not sort out. Drivers are not cool level headed Milquetoasts. (Can I use that reference now that it has been explained to Peter?) They may be able to counterfeit that appearance for PR and press conferences but underneath they are A type personalities who want to win - at whatever cost.

I can think of drivers past and present who would have started the discussion with a smack.

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Cheap?

CHEAP?

Man, that really stinks. I don't see that as clever at all.
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Yeah, good thinking by Alonso IMO.

Not going to help inter-team relations I dont think, but Alonso is in it for himself, as is Hamilton.

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Man, that really stinks. I don't see that as clever at all.
Well, given that he went faster than Hamilton, and made sure he couldn´t be beaten - I would disagree, and say it was very smart, albeit a wee bit underhand.

Ofcourse, this is all assuming there was no car problems.
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I'm getting extremely fed up with that punk kid Alonso.
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As long as they view it as on track rivalry, but it was a cheap shot wasn't it?

A shame really because it devalues Alonso's stock in my eyes (not that that is important).
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If Alonso really did this deliberately (and the data will show if there was a problem) Ron is going to be really really upset. Things are bad enough with the Ferrari debacle at the moment without them doing this within the team.

Odds on Ron sacking him? Extreme perhaps but who knows....
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Oh man, can't wait to see how Ron's going to react to this one. Great stuff Alonso, for entertainments sake if nothing else.
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Shows how worried he is, I guess......
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It was certainly slightly underhand. But it really stokes things up for tomorrow.
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I don't think anything really needs stoking up.
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what sort of circus is Ron running at the moment?!
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I guess Jean Todt have some thoughts about it...
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No, more than slightly Knowlesy, if he did do it deliberately (and Ron clearly thinks so), it was done to ensure that a team mate couldn't get another lap in. I agree with Peter, it devalues Alonso's stock substantially for me.
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No, more than slightly Knowlesy, if he did do it deliberately (and Ron clearly thinks so), it was done to ensure that a team mate couldn't get another lap in. I agree with Peter, it devalues Alonso's stock substantially for me.
I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm not in the right mood to judge this properly at the moment.

I like both drivers and it made me chuckle a bit so I don't know...

Lewis is clearly in no doubt what happened. I wonder now if McLaren will now favour Lewis strategy wise tomorrow to compensate?
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