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Old 19 Nov 2019, 09:42 (Ref:3941583)   #76
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Not kidding, and who said DJRTP are sceptical of the findings?

With the 'debriss' BS they accepted all findings and pleaded guilty to unsporting conduct.
They paid $150k and 300 points for running a generally accepted 20 second SC buffer out to 47 seconds.

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The tech breach was there and Dick himself said it should not have happened.

"The Bathurst stuff shouldn’t have happened and we’ve paid the price,’’ Johnson said.
A rooted engine being checked - that is what shouldn't have happened.

They also found water in the oil - surprised they didn't hand out a penalty for that as well.

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Supercars is the game, and the prizes are the Championship, Bathurst and the Teams' Championship.

DJRTP are playing, and have won 2 out of 3 of those prizes so far this year.
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Old 19 Nov 2019, 10:18 (Ref:3941591)   #77
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I sure Forda is a DJRTP employee, going by his unwaivering denial they have done any wrong, even in the face of the teams' own admission of guilt, and lack of appeals.
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Old 19 Nov 2019, 10:19 (Ref:3941592)   #78
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...A rooted engine being checked - that is what shouldn't have happened.
You cut out the bit where Dick said, "We made a mistake, we’ve paid the penalty.’’???

Interesting.

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I sure Forda is a DJRTP employee, going by his unwaivering denial they have done any wrong, even in the face of the teams' own admission of guilt, and lack of appeals.
Before that he was the Iraq Information Minister.

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Old 19 Nov 2019, 11:09 (Ref:3941594)   #79
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The main thing DJRTP have done "wrong" here is break the once-perpetual Holden/888 cycle.

Seems to make people froth at the mouth, some more than others.

Including Ryan Walkinshaw, who has now been exposed for sending hate messages to Scotty via text.
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Old 19 Nov 2019, 11:17 (Ref:3941596)   #80
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The main thing DJRTP have done "wrong" here is break the once-perpetual Holden/888 cycle.
+ unsporting conduct

+ tech breach

They're both "wrong" too aren't they?

What Ryan W did is unacceptable.
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Old 19 Nov 2019, 11:48 (Ref:3941601)   #81
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Seems to make people froth at the mouth, some more than others.
Frothing at the mouth, have a look in the mirror. It is interesting when people get into protracted arguments such as this with nothing more than fandom zeal and no true knowledge of what makes a racing car tick. Everyone but you can see what happened, why is that? You remind me of a politician that will talk for a week on anything bar the facts of the matter.
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Old 19 Nov 2019, 12:40 (Ref:3941613)   #82
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Frothing at the mouth, have a look in the mirror.
You're simply proving the point with your rant.

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It is interesting when people get into protracted arguments such as this with nothing more than fandom zeal and no true knowledge of what makes a racing car tick.
Being able to single-handedly build a Supercar isn't a prerequisite for following the sport.

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Everyone but you can see what happened, why is that?
There are two sides to every story, and only one is getting any real media space.
No one has officially determined why, and released details of what caused, the Q engine to have tolerance variances on 3 of it's 16 valves.

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You remind me of a politician that will talk for a week on anything bar the facts of the matter.
And you remind me of one of those old car weirdos who like to rattle on about the days of yore.
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Old 20 Nov 2019, 06:13 (Ref:3941714)   #83
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They paid $150k and 300 points for running a generally accepted 20 second SC buffer out to 47 seconds.
No, it was a 1 second gap that went to 47 seconds.
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Old 20 Nov 2019, 06:28 (Ref:3941715)   #84
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+ unsporting conduct

+ tech breach

They're both "wrong" too aren't they?

What Ryan W did is unacceptable.
And cheating by lobbying for unjustified parity advantages........oh wait.......:
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Old 20 Nov 2019, 09:17 (Ref:3941728)   #85
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Old 20 Nov 2019, 12:48 (Ref:3941759)   #86
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The main thing DJRTP have done "wrong" here is break the once-perpetual Holden/888 cycle.

Seems to make people froth at the mouth, some more than others.

Including Ryan Walkinshaw, who has now been exposed for sending hate messages to Scotty via text.
Scott has been abusing team owners, team principals and even the entire paddock calling them ‘toxic’’ for several months now.

Hardly surprising someone has finally had a go at him to his face, if it’s even true. As for calling his team cheats, I think that is something that is now well and truly considered fact ever since bathurst...
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Old 20 Nov 2019, 22:16 (Ref:3941839)   #87
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Bathurst just confirmed beyond all reasonable doubt they are cheats. After the drop-gear incident and the rear wing angle incident, everyone has been looking at them sideways ever since then. It was a matter of when they got caught, not if. Penske also has a long track record of cheating in the US, so not sure why some people would think he would operate differently in Australia?
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Old 20 Nov 2019, 22:25 (Ref:3941840)   #88
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No, it was a 1 second gap that went to 47 seconds.
A 20 second SC buffer is considered okay, wink-wink.
888 have proved that to be the case in the past.
The Dude reckoned getting away with that was somewhat reasonable.

But running that out a further 27 seconds = $250k / 300 points.

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Scott has been abusing team owners, team principals and even the entire paddock calling them ‘toxic’’ for several months now.
The "toxic" comments have only been said recently.

If you want to substantiate this claim though, then please provide links - anything from prior to this month will do.

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Hardly surprising someone has finally had a go at him to his face, if it’s even true.
But Ryan didn't "go at him to his face", he sent underhanded text messages instead.

Pretty disgraceful behaviour, even more so when it comes directly from a team owner.

But possibly born out of spite - Scotty turned down an offer to join WAU a few years back. Obviously he didn't have rocks in his head.
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Scott has been abusing team owners, team principals and even the entire paddock calling them ‘toxic’’ for several months now.

Hardly surprising someone has finally had a go at him to his face, if it’s even true. As for calling his team cheats, I think that is something that is now well and truly considered fact ever since bathurst...
Good on Scotty for calling pitlane toxic that is exactly what it is, all the nuffies on here whinging about DJR/TP can suck it up!
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A 20 second SC buffer is considered okay, wink-wink.
888 have proved that to be the case in the past.
The Dude reckoned getting away with that was somewhat reasonable.

But running that out a further 27 seconds = $250k / 300 points.



The "toxic" comments have only been said recently.

If you want to substantiate this claim though, then please provide links - anything from prior to this month will do.



But Ryan didn't "go at him to his face", he sent underhanded text messages instead.

Pretty disgraceful behaviour, even more so when it comes directly from a team owner.

But possibly born out of spite - Scotty turned down an offer to join WAU a few years back. Obviously he didn't have rocks in his head.
There’s a common thread here though, we have seen many team owners, team principals, drivers and others be critical of Scott recently.

Almost as if he is losing friends up and down pitlane due to his behaviour.

Also from who I have asked in pitlane the story is that RW said something along the lines of them pitlane is toxic towards you guys because of your team’s cheating’. I also hear he was by far not the only person in pitlane who took great and understandable offence to Scott public insult of his peers.

I actually think that’s a fair thing to call someone up on. Scott brought it upon himself.
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