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Old 28 Apr 2019, 21:33 (Ref:3900354)   #76
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Strange 3 races. Bit too much of a crash fest to class them as "good" personally.

Race 3 why did Plato think going to the outside at the start at turn 1 was ever going to be a good idea?
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 07:07 (Ref:3900401)   #77
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Strange 3 races. Bit too much of a crash fest to class them as "good" personally.

Race 3 why did Plato think going to the outside at the start at turn 1 was ever going to be a good idea?
He was on the "wrong" tyre for the race so he knew he wouldn't have the grip. He said before the race that the main aim would probably be to protect Collard who was on the "right" tyre. Given Collard was on the inside he probably just wanted to give him as much room as possible. Worked out ok for Plato in the end. He had a good battle with cars/drivers he couldn't get near last year.
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 08:23 (Ref:3900415)   #78
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That BMW 3 series is so good already, at only the second race weekend of its life. Hats off to the team. Customer teams keep on buying up Dynamics Civics, but I wonder if it would cost a lot more to get a BMW made instead?
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 08:37 (Ref:3900418)   #79
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That BMW 3 series is so good already, at only the second race weekend of its life. Hats off to the team. Customer teams keep on buying up Dynamics Civics, but I wonder if it would cost a lot more to get a BMW made instead?
I can't imagine the difference is that much - otherwise it would not have been a route for Parker to take.

At the moment though, when teams are weighing up options.
Ex-Dynamics Civics have taken the drivers' championship and many race wins. I can't recall any Ex-WSR BMW taking a race win, let alone a title in any form.
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 08:42 (Ref:3900419)   #80
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To be fair the BMWs look ridiculously quick in a straight line. Can't just be put down to the aero as I noticed Jelley just dragging by a couple of people on the straights as well. Hope it gets sorted as I think they might just run away once they get the car fully sorted.

I was a bit gutted last year when it was announced that success ballast was being reduced, but happy to give it a chance. It's looking so far like it's not making as much difference. Would prefer them to just drop the different tyre compounds.
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 08:57 (Ref:3900421)   #81
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If anything the VW looks the quickest in a straight line due to it's shape if what I saw yesterday is anything to go by
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 09:01 (Ref:3900422)   #82
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To be fair the BMWs look ridiculously quick in a straight line. Can't just be put down to the aero as I noticed Jelley just dragging by a couple of people on the straights as well. Hope it gets sorted as I think they might just run away once they get the car fully sorted.
The speed in a straight line will be a result of aero, traction, power, momentum and other factors.

The speed traps do not show a huge disparity.
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If anything the VW looks the quickest in a straight line due to it's shape if what I saw yesterday is anything to go by
A quick glance at the official timing suggests that the two fastest cars on the grid (in terms of straight line speed) are the Dynamics Honda and Motorbase Ford.
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 09:16 (Ref:3900425)   #84
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Sad to see all the destruction in races 1 and 2. I also think from a paying spectator's point of view, seeing half of the race behind safety car probably isn't the best thing, as you only see a handful of racing laps. I really think that first race accident should have been a red flag.
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 09:21 (Ref:3900428)   #85
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If anything the VW looks the quickest in a straight line due to it's shape if what I saw yesterday is anything to go by
Unfortunately the straight lines taken by the VWs seemed to be straight into the tyre barriers yesterday.
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Old 29 Apr 2019, 09:37 (Ref:3900433)   #86
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Unfortunately the straight lines taken by the VWs seemed to be straight into the tyre barriers yesterday.
They can't be that quick. If Hamilton was quick enough to hit Goff from behind, then the Ford is clearly quicker. It would probably help if the VW's line had been in the same direction as the circuit though....
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They can't be that quick. If Hamilton was quick enough to hit Goff from behind, then the Ford is clearly quicker. It would probably help if the VW's line had been in the same direction as the circuit though....
Except he didn’t ....
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They can't be that quick. If Hamilton was quick enough to hit Goff from behind, then the Ford is clearly quicker. It would probably help if the VW's line had been in the same direction as the circuit though....

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Sad to see all the destruction in races 1 and 2. I also think from a paying spectator's point of view, seeing half of the race behind safety car probably isn't the best thing, as you only see a handful of racing laps. I really think that first race accident should have been a red flag.
The race length was extended after the 1st safety car. With 2 safety car stints in one race, you only lost 3 laps out 16 at best.
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It would probably help if the VW's line had been in the same direction as the circuit though....
Not all posts should be taken as literal, perhaps the was missed?

I refer you to a post made yesterday:
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Even more amazing, when you compare the narrative to the replay, is Goff's claim that Hamilton pushed him wide and then hit the back of him!
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Something that can be true of posters as well as drivers.

In serious thought though - is it always wise to put someone in front of the camera when their emotions are still charged?
Mike Jordan's comments about drivers down the field (particularly Collard) seemed to be fuelled by his concern for his son's health at the time.

Having had time to change and gather his thoughts, perhaps Goff may not be deserving of as much sympathy, but maybe a bit of thought should also go into what is deserving of airtime from the producers? Paul O'Neill seemed rather uncomfortable at times with the amount of focus itv were giving to on-track collisions.
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The race length was extended after the 1st safety car. With 2 safety car stints in one race, you only lost 3 laps out 16 at best.
Interesting stat from the results.

All three rounds saw 13 green flag laps, and 6 SC laps.

So a total of 9 laps of racing were 'lost' during the day from a total of 48.
In other teams - over half a race was lost across the course of the day, but we still saw 39 laps of racing (or 80% of the planned).
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Having had time to change and gather his thoughts, perhaps Goff may not be deserving of as much sympathy, but maybe a bit of thought should also go into what is deserving of airtime from the producers? Paul O'Neill seemed rather uncomfortable at times with the amount of focus itv were giving to on-track collisions.
I still think Goff is a Dick and his apology does not go far enough. Mike Jordan was clearly very concerned for his son, and so would I be, I feel it was inappropriate to shove a microphone in his face at that time.

To me the replays of the Ginetta shunt were out of order. There is no way itv's producers knew Fin Green or the driver of #15's condition when they started the replays. One driver was on a stretcher on the circuit receiving triage still.
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The highlight of the weekend was Tim Harvey saying what sounded like "Josh Cookie's car". Classic.
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The highlight of the weekend was Tim Harvey saying what sounded like "Josh Cookie's car". Classic.
For me it was the Toca Radio commentary during FP2. It was a red flag with cars returning to the pits and the commentators were trying to work out who was missing. One said he thought he had seen a car on the infield and suspected Bobby Thompson had stooped to do his hair.
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I still think Goff is a Dick and his apology does not go far enough. Mike Jordan was clearly very concerned for his son, and so would I be, I feel it was inappropriate to shove a microphone in his face at that time.
If it was my son and the concern that high, I would have been at the hospital.
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If it was my son and the concern that high, I would have been at the hospital.
Possibly getting in the way, causing a distraction for the medical professionals and preventing them from getting on with providing care?

We are not aware of what conversation had taken place between Mike and his son immediately following the accident, or what he had been informed and advised by the medical staff.

Either way - probably not the best time to request a tv interview.

There is a big difference between:
a) bringing an update from the garage on the possible future, and extent of damage, to a piece of machinery.
b) bringing an update from a family member on the possible condition and extent of damage to the health and well being of a driver.

One of them has potential to enhance the viewer's understanding, the other is crass tv production.
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Possibly getting in the way, causing a distraction for the medical professionals and preventing them from getting on with providing care?

We are not aware of what conversation had taken place between Mike and his son immediately following the accident, or what he had been informed and advised by the medical staff.

Either way - probably not the best time to request a tv interview.

There is a big difference between:
a) bringing an update from the garage on the possible future, and extent of damage, to a piece of machinery.
b) bringing an update from a family member on the possible condition and extent of damage to the health and well being of a driver.

One of them has potential to enhance the viewer's understanding, the other is crass tv production.
It is possible to go to with someone to a hospital without getting in the way.
I'm sure Mike would have refused the interview if he didn't want it.
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