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Old 12 Nov 2018, 18:16 (Ref:3862856)   #1
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MSA rebranding

So - will this improve the sport.......


"Today marks the start of an ambitious new phase for motorsport in the United Kingdom, with the Motor Sports Association (MSA) launching a new identity, Motorsport UK, as it transitions from a traditional governance-led association to a modern membership-focused organisation."








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Old 12 Nov 2018, 18:49 (Ref:3862868)   #2
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Mmm, how come we have to learn about it via YouTube.

Obviously it will result in more common sense being applied to rules and regulations, cheaper licences for competitors.......

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Old 12 Nov 2018, 19:34 (Ref:3862873)   #3
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I thought there are already a number of organisations known as Motorsport UK - or something very similar.

Not so many known as MSA.

Are they trying to create confusing and obfuscation?

Still, nice to know that it is transitioning. That should get it some publicity.

Nice that it wants to 'identify' as a membership-'focused' organisation.

Has the management been taken over by consultants?
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[QUOTE=grantp;3862873]I thought there are already a number of organisations known as Motorsport UK - or something very similar.

Not so many known as MSA.

Are they trying to create confusing and obfuscation?

Still, nice to know that it is transitioning. That should get it some publicity.


Just the start,, lots more changes in the next 12 months, maybe including a move
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Old 12 Nov 2018, 21:19 (Ref:3862887)   #5
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So how many tens of thousands of pounds will that cost? I would have thought with falling numbers of competition licences the MSA would have far more to worry about than a ridiculous rebranding. And what a load of rubbish jargon it uses. Of course the MSA is a traditional governance led association and that's what it should stay. Next they'll be calling us 'customers'. It's only a membership focused organisation because we have to be members if we want to compete. There's no choice about that.


Oh dear, there was me thinking that Dave Richards was going to bring some dynamic thinking to the MSA.
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To be fair, there is some suggestion that Dave Richards has had some beneficial impact - the small degree of relaxation of some of the "lifing" rules, for example....


I guess with this we'll just have to wait and see......I've just been testing and the website addresses are changing to motorsportsuk.org - or at least some have....
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Well, from my world Dave Richards is really kicking some ass.

The top level karting championship has traditionally been a franchise called Super 1. We've raced in it for the past three years and it's become complacent, expensive and sucking money from the sport. IMHO of course.

All of a sudden Super 1 is history. Toast. Karting UK is a branch of the former MSA and is taking over the running of the British Championship. There's big money investment in the circuits that host the BC rounds, coming from KUK, which will benefit grass roots karting. The BC rounds are going to smaller circuits not just the cosy monopoly of the biggest venues like people suspected.

Karting UK has also recognised its customers come from A&D karting centres and its web site reaches out to them, saying new drivers.should start there. TBH that's brilliant for me because a lot of my customers come from A&D too and for the governing body to join the dots is unheard of.

Being karting, just like on here, people are moaning - cost of the rebrand, don't like what they're doing etc. FFS, for years we've said "somebody should do something about it." Well, now someone IS trying to do something about it. Let's give them a chance, it may just work?

I'm excited.

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Old 13 Nov 2018, 09:59 (Ref:3862998)   #8
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I had occasion to ring the MS... sorry - Motorsport UK this morning and the rebranding has certainly happened in terms of the phone messages. Morninggents will be pleased to hear that we're not "customers" but "members".
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Can’t see the point of a rebrand but I’ve only heard good things about how Dave Richards has shaken things up a bit. Certainly sounds like he’s intending to focus on grassroots stuff, and the video seems to support that.


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Guess what! Email now received announcing the change.....

I have to agree with the impression that DR is trying to get ‘grass roots’ motorsport rejuvenated, and that is definitely to be applauded. We also need more common sense rule changes to save costs, such as the ‘life extensions’ mentioned recently. That could be taken further, IMHO.....
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I still think of it as the RAC anyway, organisers of the Lombard rally...
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Life extensions?

Is that being able to renew a license after a lapsed period without having to start all over again. That would be beneficial to those who are taking time out due to work/family and coming back into the sport.
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Life extensions is about belts and seats, rather than insisting they’re in date.

Worth contacting them about reviewing license requirements. Plenty of us moan about the MSA*, myself included, but few of us put pen to paper as it were and lobby for change. Of course there’s no guarantee that it’ll have any effect, but still worth a try. I’ll shortly be writing a letter addressed to Mr Richards highlighting the hoops we’ve had to jump through to get a car that’s used in a national race series approved for hillclimbs.

*thats a habit I won’t break easily, to my mind the MSA govern motorsport and Motorsport UK is a TV programme that shows BTCC support races.


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Life extensions?

Is that being able to renew a license after a lapsed period without having to start all over again. That would be beneficial to those who are taking time out due to work/family and coming back into the sport.

Depends how long you've been out......I know after a few years (4 or 5) you might have to sit the ARDS (if you fail this your a nutcase) paper test, but its not too painful. For rallying from what I remember you can just pick up where you left off, or maybe a grade down.
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Got my email now......and of course I'm now waiting with bated breath for the "pack with more details on the Motorsport UK membership proposition".....
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