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Old 19 May 2018, 15:17 (Ref:3823386)   #1486
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Charlie Whiting was more circumspect on whether it saved a life.

Although it clearly didn’t hurt having it there.
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Old 20 May 2018, 08:59 (Ref:3823514)   #1487
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There's no doubt it helped, but whether it made a difference we don't know
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Old 20 May 2018, 10:21 (Ref:3823520)   #1488
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Looking at this photo, the Halo more than helped.

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Old 20 May 2018, 11:11 (Ref:3823530)   #1489
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That picture is a great find BJ! Thank you for sharing.

Given that is a spinning wheel and the amount of work it put into the halo, I don't believe it would have broken Makino's neck if it had touched his helmet.
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Old 21 May 2018, 12:36 (Ref:3823750)   #1490
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 12:49 (Ref:3846514)   #1491
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Great save for the HALO again: Leclerc Spa 2108.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/moto...n=true#image=2
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 12:56 (Ref:3846518)   #1492
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We can't say for sure it would've went wrong, but it seems likely the Halo did well here. What concerns me still is the Massa style incident, as the Halo still gives no protection at all to the front. I'd still like to see a screen fitted to the front. Even if it's just inserts over the Halo frame or whatever.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 13:27 (Ref:3846534)   #1493
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The halo was somewhat vindicated by the fact that it saved Leclerc from having the full force of Alonso's car land on his head.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 13:46 (Ref:3846540)   #1494
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We can't say for sure it would've went wrong, but it seems likely the Halo did well here. What concerns me still is the Massa style incident, as the Halo still gives no protection at all to the front. I'd still like to see a screen fitted to the front. Even if it's just inserts over the Halo frame or whatever.
I'm going to be (slightly pedantic here (sorry) but if it comes directly from the front, the object will hit the central support bar of the halo. If it comes with an upwards or downwards (more likely) trajectory it will still more than likely hit the halo too in my opinion. The only way it can get through is if it is smaller than, and flies straight between the top of the cockpit and bottom of the halo.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 13:55 (Ref:3846541)   #1495
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Having watched the first corner incident as it happened I'm really pleased that nothing came of it.

I am however really *really* disappointed - and getting rather tired - of the polarity about the Halo. It might well have saved Leclerc's head; it may not. The same could be said of the roll hoop, tub of both cars, deformable structures, cockpit side protection, HANS device, helmet, nose profile (high or low), wheel tethers, dry-break fuel hoses, etc, etc - but excepting the noses and high cockpit sides, of which the "They're ugly" arguments dissipated really quickly - they're accepted as part and parcel of the many-layered safety system that modern racing mandates and nobody argues about them.

It's not necessarily here that I'm talking about, really; despite our occasional spats I think Tenths manages to strike a pretty good balance.

There are however just too many howls from the extremes of both sides of a non-argument. The Halo, aesthetically perfect or not, is at least part of an answer to the obvious issue of having the driver's head exposed. And that, aesthetically perfect or not, is a good thing. Like flame retardant undies.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 13:57 (Ref:3846542)   #1496
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In Massas case it would've missed both the top and centre bar.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rc...35464529818398

You can see from any front view of the halo that there's actually still a lot of space for an object to get through. But there are concepts that solve that too -

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...672256/672256/

I'd just like to see a full solution.
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I'd just like to see a full solution.
I agree. If I crap on the Halo it is generally because it is less than what the sport could have done and deserves. I haven't watched the Spa race yet (not sure I will), but I have seen a short video of the accident and it looks like it may have helped in that scenario. Which should not be a surprise. It has specific things I will do well. But just not as much as a full solution could.

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We’re back to where we were months ago.

The halo helps. There is no problem with introducing it, especially as it was he most developed solution at that point. The issue is now, is research continuing with it and other solutions to go the next step.

Of course there is the other argument htabit isn’t needed, but those photos don’t help that argument.
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I think we have to be thankful for the halo there. Itís here to stay
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Charlie Whitting is saying, it's “little bit speculative” as to whether the Halo saved LeClerc.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/too-ea...clerc-whiting/

However, looking at this right hand side view of it, you can clearly see where Alonso's McLaren made contact.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ernando-alonso

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