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Old 15 May 2018, 15:36 (Ref:3822619)   #1
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WTCR Race of Netherlands Round 10-11 & 12

Its time for the WTCR drivers to tackle the Zandvoort track for 3 races and there a very odd thing about this weekend's race as race 2 & 3 are on a Monday for some odd reason. (meaning I had to press record as I out on Monday, is it a Bank Holiday in Zandvoort?) Also who are the wildcards for this race?
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Old 15 May 2018, 16:44 (Ref:3822633)   #2
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is it a Bank Holiday in Zandvoort?
yes, Whit Monday
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Old 15 May 2018, 17:24 (Ref:3822647)   #3
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Also who are the wildcards for this race?
Wild card drivers are Michael Verhagen and Bernhard van Oranje, both in Bas Koeten Racing Audi's
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Old 15 May 2018, 17:25 (Ref:3822648)   #4
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Odd for an international series to be racing on a Monday. The BTCC used to race on bank holiday Mondays, but even just being a national series it switched to Sundays only in 2004.
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Old 15 May 2018, 17:33 (Ref:3822651)   #5
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Crowd figures will be huge on Monday as Verstappen and Ricciardo will do a demo.
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Old 19 May 2018, 20:35 (Ref:3823422)   #6
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So far Hyundais seem to be nowhere, which is good for competition.

Will be interesting to see how this BoP fares in Vila Real where (most probably) everyone except Alfas and Peugeots will go back to 60kg. Still have a feeling they were a bit harsh with the Hyundai
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Old 19 May 2018, 20:58 (Ref:3823424)   #7
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Will be interesting to see how this BoP fares in Vila Real where (most probably) everyone except Alfas and Peugeots will go back to 60kg. Still have a feeling they were a bit harsh with the Hyundai

Good for Audi. Good for Vernay.
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Old 19 May 2018, 21:16 (Ref:3823436)   #8
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Odd for an international series to be racing on a Monday. The BTCC used to race on bank holiday Mondays, but even just being a national series it switched to Sundays only in 2004.
I can remember the European Super Touring Championship running on a Tuesday at Magny Cours and of course Andy Priaulx won the ETCC on a Thursday I think.

I was getting confused too, as I couldn't find the races until I looked at Monday!
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Old 19 May 2018, 21:33 (Ref:3823440)   #9
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In Belgium and Netherlands but I think also France and Germany it's a holiday.
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Old 20 May 2018, 08:00 (Ref:3823501)   #10
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So far Hyundais seem to be nowhere, which is good for competition.

Will be interesting to see how this BoP fares in Vila Real where (most probably) everyone except Alfas and Peugeots will go back to 60kg. Still have a feeling they were a bit harsh with the Hyundai
Well, better hit them to hard once and then scale back if necessary.
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Old 20 May 2018, 14:34 (Ref:3823556)   #11
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Red flag out for race 1 after a 2 car crash with a car on the barriers
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Old 20 May 2018, 17:28 (Ref:3823582)   #12
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Jesus Christ, what a jerk stewards...


Norbi drove in the very inside of the corner, Muller turns into him at least one time and they give Norbi a +10 place grid penalty.


The penalty after Huffs stupid move was also pathetic, but this...

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...ort-collision/

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...-muller-clash/
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Old 20 May 2018, 21:07 (Ref:3823627)   #13
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IMO it was a race incident. No need to punish Michelisz.
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Old 20 May 2018, 21:15 (Ref:3823631)   #14
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Obviously the race stewards were easily influenced by Yvan Muller's harsh comments. Definitely everyone saw it was a race incident.
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Old 21 May 2018, 10:19 (Ref:3823721)   #15
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No stream again? Very disappointing.
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Old 21 May 2018, 11:17 (Ref:3823736)   #16
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Fantastic race 2.
They only need to get Hyundai and Alfa BoP right and this would be fantastic championship.
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Old 21 May 2018, 15:30 (Ref:3823766)   #17
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shame bop! its ridiculous how they penalized the Hyundai! let's hope Audi drivers finished to complain and cry all the time!!
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Old 21 May 2018, 17:04 (Ref:3823794)   #18
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The Hyundais are pegged back too much now indeed. The other cars seems to be balanced nicely, if they can get the Hyundais in there we're in for a stunning rest of the season. Race 2 was a blast, despite Zandvoort not being the best overtaking circuit.
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Old 21 May 2018, 17:32 (Ref:3823803)   #19
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Let's see why the Hyundai's are with the compensation weight being lowered.
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Old 21 May 2018, 18:46 (Ref:3823815)   #20
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Fully agree with Thed Bjork:
https://www.touringcars.net/2018/05/...eason-bop-test

In theory, why can't someone sandbag in winter and put some huge developments later in mid-season? I think second BoP session is must.

In general WSC and FIA should really sort this system in terms of organisation. I think we should just give them time because the concept is still young.

Agree, Hyundais were hit too much, but shouldn't change many things dramatically again, first of all because everyone will be on +60kg once again in Vila Real. Maybe -10mm of ride height would do.

Happy for Peugeot, finally the were in the mix.

Surprised by the weak pace of Cupra, to be honest
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Old 21 May 2018, 19:21 (Ref:3823821)   #21
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Where was the BoP hammer when Citroen was making an embarrassment of the WTCC?
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Old 21 May 2018, 19:55 (Ref:3823826)   #22
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Fully agree with Thed Bjork:
https://www.touringcars.net/2018/05/...eason-bop-test

In theory, why can't someone sandbag in winter and put some huge developments later in mid-season? I think second BoP session is must.

In general WSC and FIA should really sort this system in terms of organisation. I think we should just give them time because the concept is still young.

Agree, Hyundais were hit too much, but shouldn't change many things dramatically again, first of all because everyone will be on +60kg once again in Vila Real. Maybe -10mm of ride height would do.

Happy for Peugeot, finally the were in the mix.

Surprised by the weak pace of Cupra, to be honest
Yeah, i think that -10 or -20mm will be OK for Hyundai.


And about Bjork comment, I think that there is rule that you can't develop cars during season.

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...neral-meeting/

I found it but this was for TCR International, no idea if they keep this rule.
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Old 21 May 2018, 20:11 (Ref:3823829)   #24
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https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...neral-meeting/

I found it but this was for TCR International, no idea if they keep this rule.
Missed that.

By the way, almost article in winter on fiawtcr.com mentioned that homologations are freezed for 2 years, so seems they transferred that after all
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This video is the best thing about the WTCR this weekend. Excellent trolling.

https://youtu.be/JYZPaNKavxc
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