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Old 5 Feb 2020, 07:00 (Ref:3955790)   #2146
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The P50 is now famous in France, thanks to Jeremy Clarkson! Generally, all those tiny cars are nicknamed suppository for autobus!
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Old 5 Feb 2020, 11:34 (Ref:3955848)   #2147
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The idea of building a P50 for local shopping trips quite appeals (in an absurd way) but with so little space evident inside driver cubicle an "estate" version might be required.

I would also be slightly concerned about its abilities over speed humps.

Could be amusing though. Maybe not so amusing at the price for the kit.
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Old 5 Feb 2020, 13:10 (Ref:3955876)   #2148
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Hopefully we’ve now exhausted the Peel and Isetta conversation.....
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Old 5 Feb 2020, 13:57 (Ref:3955886)   #2149
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Hopefully we’ve now exhausted the Peel and Isetta conversation.....
Sorry Mike, but I've always found microcars an interesting subject. maybe it's something to do with when I was born (1956) then growing up with a strong interest in cars. They were certainly quirky & different!
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Old 5 Feb 2020, 15:49 (Ref:3955903)   #2150
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Sorry Mike, but I've always found microcars an interesting subject. maybe it's something to do with when I was born (1956) then growing up with a strong interest in cars. They were certainly quirky & different!
Oh, I totally agree, but perhaps not on this thread!

BTW it’s all my fault for posting the newspaper pic in the first place!
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Old 5 Feb 2020, 16:01 (Ref:3955906)   #2151
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Oh, I totally agree, but perhaps not on this thread!

BTW it’s all my fault for posting the newspaper pic in the first place!
Point taken Mike, I'd forgotten this wasn't the tea break...
Anyway, it's nearly a week since we left, has anyone noticed any difference?
(How's that for getting the thread back on track?)
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Old 5 Feb 2020, 17:10 (Ref:3955929)   #2152
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Point taken Mike, I'd forgotten this wasn't the tea break...
Anyway, it's nearly a week since we left, has anyone noticed any difference?
(How's that for getting the thread back on track?)
Not only that but the P50 has "Sports" and "GT" versions with "racing disk brakes".

AND it's one of not very many genuine British car manufacturers.

And they have a woke EV version or two!

Do they know that the car is well known in France. Have they worked out the potential for an export market? (Is it mainly because of the colour that France knows about it?)

Should they be considering record attempts at the 'Ring?

Etc.
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Groundhog Day? For FS......
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Oh, I totally agree, but perhaps not on this thread!

BTW it’s all my fault for posting the newspaper pic in the first place!
Mike, we are now in the 'Sunny Uplands' so maybe it is time to close this thread and start something more appropriate;

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Old 7 Nov 2020, 11:40 (Ref:4015355)   #2155
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This thread fizzled out a while back, and we've all had other things to think about in the meantime so I feel sort of guilty to raise its ugly head again, but for those who hope to take cars abroad next year the deadline for applying for ECMT permits is only 2 weeks away - just enough time to get your applications in if not already done. Of course depending on "the deal" they may not be needed, but can we take that chance? Unusually clear guidance here:


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ecmt-int...content=weekly


If you look at exemptions listed on page 11 of the User Guide https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/defau.../13mqguide.pdf it says quite clearly that sports event transport is only exempt from permits if it's non-commercial or the vehicle - including trailer - is less than 3.5 tonnes so unless you're transporting your own cars it's my view that everything else will need permits.


As we've comprehensively p****d off the EU I doubt if we can expect much leniency from enforcement agencies!
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This thread fizzled out a while back, and we've all had other things to think about in the meantime so I feel sort of guilty to raise its ugly head again, but for those who hope to take cars abroad next year the deadline for applying for ECMT permits is only 2 weeks away - just enough time to get your applications in if not already done. Of course depending on "the deal" they may not be needed, but can we take that chance? Unusually clear guidance here:


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ecmt-int...content=weekly


If you look at exemptions listed on page 11 of the User Guide https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/defau.../13mqguide.pdf it says quite clearly that sports event transport is only exempt from permits if it's non-commercial or the vehicle - including trailer - is less than 3.5 tonnes so unless you're transporting your own cars it's my view that everything else will need permits.


As we've comprehensively p****d off the EU I doubt if we can expect much leniency from enforcement agencies!




Very satisfactory too.
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This thread fizzled out a while back, and we've all had other things to think about in the meantime so I feel sort of guilty to raise its ugly head again, but for those who hope to take cars abroad next year the deadline for applying for ECMT permits is only 2 weeks away - just enough time to get your applications in if not already done. Of course depending on "the deal" they may not be needed, but can we take that chance? Unusually clear guidance here:


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If you look at exemptions listed on page 11 of the User Guide https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/defau.../13mqguide.pdf it says quite clearly that sports event transport is only exempt from permits if it's non-commercial or the vehicle - including trailer - is less than 3.5 tonnes so unless you're transporting your own cars it's my view that everything else will need permits.


As we've comprehensively p****d off the EU I doubt if we can expect much leniency from enforcement agencies!
Thanks for putting that one up .
With the way this year has gone it has been easy to forget everything that might be coming in the future .
It will need reading a few times to make sure of what is needed for anybody planning on doing any events in Europe next year .
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TPLW is a new one on me. So my 3.5T Sprinter will be OK with the karts inside, but not if I have a trailer with a racing car on the back? I mean, on a commercial basis of course, not as a weekend warrior. Or does TPLW mean I have to take into account the fact that I *could* tow a trailer even if the van doesn't have a tow bar, so my 3.5T van is actually (for example) rated at 4.5T?





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No it hasn't, thats just what the jugglers in Downing St want you to do.
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into what might be needed for us small team traveling into the EU next year. If anyone is interested e mail me and I will forward you the response i got from them.
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