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Old 4 Nov 2014, 14:19 (Ref:3471535)   #91
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The "deadline" motivates and demarcates.

Pretty obviously no sane businessman is going to shut down his enterprise if he is 99 percent there on the "deadline" day, but having a "deadline" inspires activity ("Let's work extra hard and finish by the deadline") and also is needed to construct a sellable business plan.

No one is going to sign on ato somerthing completley open-eneded ("We will probably finsih this phase eventually, and then we will start the next phase which will last ... uhhh, I don't know ... and then we will start the final phase which ends ... whenever.")
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Early reports that Caterham are trying to crowd-fund themselves back onto the grid for Abu Dhabi.
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Early reports that Caterham are trying to crowd-fund themselves back onto the grid for Abu Dhabi.
One may laugh, but end of season efforts to stay afloat often involve a bit of creativity. Recall Pescarolo's long shot at the 1982 WEC drivers title involving Rondeau selling an M379(?) to a Japanese collector on the proviso that Henri could drive it around Fuji while delivering it.

Think I'll be funding Mars One and Project Brabham before Caterham...
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One may laugh, but end of season efforts to stay afloat often involve a bit of creativity. Recall Pescarolo's long shot at the 1982 WEC drivers title involving Rondeau selling an M379(?) to a Japanese collector on the proviso that Henri could drive it around Fuji while delivering it.

Think I'll be funding Mars One and Project Brabham before Caterham...
There's a school of thought Caterham are simply trying to fund the final race, allowing them to pick up the cash for 10th in the constructors and then fold.
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In order to pick up the 10th place 1Malaysia/Caterham/whatever would still have to beat Sauber's best non-scoring-place, because even though Marussia had to abandon the prize money it actually earned at Monaco (crappy rules they have up there), they'd still remain 9th assuming the other two don't score at least 2 points. Right?

Why are we talking about this?
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In order to pick up the 10th place 1Malaysia/Caterham/whatever would still have to beat Sauber's best non-scoring-place, because even though Marussia had to abandon the prize money it actually earned at Monaco (crappy rules they have up there), they'd still remain 9th assuming the other two don't score at least 2 points. Right?

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It is off-topic but because Marussia aren't finishing out the season their points don't count, effectively erasing them from the championship. That's what F1 pundits are saying anyway.
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Well isn't that stupid.
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It is off-topic but because Marussia aren't finishing out the season their points don't count, effectively erasing them from the championship. That's what F1 pundits are saying anyway.
The points are good, formal and written into history. But they don't get any prize money because they haven't finished the season.
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Caterham just need to pay the administrators, get cars on the grid, start the race and will get 10th in the constructors with no more Marussia. The prize money is something like $11million. The amazing thing is that of me writing this, they have 317,000+ from 720 donors in about 1 day while Brabham has 245,000 from 2580 donors in over a month.
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The power of F1, and their influence on media makes the difference. Big TV stations will likely flood it as well on their broadcasts. The people who have heard (/care) of Prabham & Perrinn & whatever projects are in obscure minority to those who now know of this, even in one day's time...
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Caterham just need to pay the administrators, get cars on the grid, start the race and will get 10th in the constructors with no more Marussia. The prize money is something like $11million. The amazing thing is that of me writing this, they have 317,000+ from 720 donors in about 1 day while Brabham has 245,000 from 2580 donors in over a month.
Exactly, with Brabham and Perrinn fans are helping to fund a dream, get more cars on the grid, and give folks jobs in motorsport hopefully, the Caterham plan is just a scheme to get the creditors their money back while the employees remain unpaid.
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The power of F1, and their influence on media makes the difference. Big TV stations will likely flood it as well on their broadcasts. The people who have heard (/care) of Prabham & Perrinn & whatever projects are in obscure minority to those who now know of this, even in one day's time...
Pretty much this. Not much point pontificating about which cause is more noble because all that matters is the numbers. F1 has the exposure that all other motorsport (bar NASCAR?) don't.

Actually no scrap that nonsense - it's clearly the swag that's swinging the money towards Caterham ('s creditors). If only Brabham had thought of making branded lanyards...

Oh, and the update: over 500,000 from ~1500 donors.
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The power of F1, and their influence on media makes the difference. Big TV stations will likely flood it as well on their broadcasts. The people who have heard (/care) of Prabham & Perrinn & whatever projects are in obscure minority to those who now know of this, even in one day's time...
Pretty much this. Not much point pontificating about which cause is more noble because all that matters is the numbers. F1 has the exposure that all other motorsport (bar NASCAR?) don't.

Actually no scrap that nonsense - it's clearly the swag that's swinging the money towards Caterham ('s creditors). If only Brabham had thought of offering branded lanyards...

Oh, and the update: over 500,000 from ~1500 donors.
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I honestly don't know who would fund or be particularly aware of Caterham - F1 or not. There's more likely to be a surge if Marussia had tried that, given Bianchi, yeah, but who cares about Caterham bar F1 nerds? Maybe Fernandes got a bout of bad conscience or something. Ploughed a bit of cash in. Maybe there's a legion of nostalgic Malaysian F1 fans that remember the Caterham that was ran by one of their own. I dunno.
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If Caterham can start the last race and score a point, it would get what, $11 million in cash? I'd bet Caterham folks are calling everyone guaranteeing a good return on the investment
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