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Old 13 Jun 2018, 00:16 (Ref:3828754)   #1
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BTCC 2019 season discussion, News and Rumours!

I know it's a bit early but figured it made more sense to put this into a 2019 thread...


Anyway, the calendar is out and there is no place for Rockingham, with Thruxton instead being given a second meeting: https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...btcc-calendar/
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 00:27 (Ref:3828755)   #2
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Well thatís a turn up for the books. Shame, it has produced some great racing. Wonder if itíll be back for 2020 or if they will replace it with another circuit
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 08:08 (Ref:3828796)   #3
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From a selfish point of view, I think this is a terrible loss to the championship. Itís the closest circuit to me, the next nearest is Silverstone and they donít compare from a spectator perspective.

Silverstone doesnít have any good viewing spots unless you pay extra for a grandstand pass, whereas Rockingham allows a view of nearly the whole circuit from one place.

Probably means I wonít be attending a round next year because no other circuit offers the same visibility.

I also think two rounds at Thruxton is an error, it might be fast but fast doesnít always mean good. Maybe they should have considered a round at Mondello like before.

Wonder if thatís it for Rockingham forever or if the BTCC will return if they sort out whatever issues theyíve had which has lost the event?
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 08:30 (Ref:3828806)   #4
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From a selfish point of view, I think this is a terrible loss to the championship. Itís the closest circuit to me, the next nearest is Silverstone and they donít compare from a spectator perspective.

Silverstone doesnít have any good viewing spots unless you pay extra for a grandstand pass, whereas Rockingham allows a view of nearly the whole circuit from one place.

Probably means I wonít be attending a round next year because no other circuit offers the same visibility.

I also think two rounds at Thruxton is an error, it might be fast but fast doesnít always mean good. Maybe they should have considered a round at Mondello like before.

Wonder if thatís it for Rockingham forever or if the BTCC will return if they sort out whatever issues theyíve had which has lost the event?
Has Silverstone started charging for Grandstand seats now? I haven't had to pay for a grandstand seat for a BTCC meeting at Silverstone since the 90's.
Rockingham has always been a bit of a soulless place for me. Too far from the action and lacking in atmosphere. Not one I get upset about missing and much better to watch on TV. Perhaps Palmer will buy/rent the place and turn the place around.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 11:10 (Ref:3828858)   #5
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whereas Rockingham allows a view of nearly the whole circuit from one place.

Probably means I wonít be attending a round next year because no other circuit offers the same visibility.
Brands Hatch Indy ó You can see it all from the grandstand.

Knockhill ó You can see all of it from the central hill area.

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I also think two rounds at Thruxton is an error, it might be fast but fast doesnít always mean good. Maybe they should have considered a round at Mondello like before.
I agree that on paper, a fresh track is the best solution for fans at first. But does Mondello have easy access, space in the paddock for the now massive hospitality for a big grid and a cheap (i.e. free) ferry deal for teams? Not sure it does.

Perhaps a compromise could have been the round at a venue that has an alternate layout i.e. Donington with the loop, or the full GP Silverstone layout? (Yes, I know Gow has poo-pooed this previously, and I get why. It's such a long track, it will make it look like 6 people are attending with empty grandstands and such)
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 16:50 (Ref:3828938)   #6
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Brands Hatch Indy ó You can see it all from the grandstand.

Knockhill ó You can see all of it from the central hill area.



I agree that on paper, a fresh track is the best solution for fans at first. But does Mondello have easy access, space in the paddock for the now massive hospitality for a big grid and a cheap (i.e. free) ferry deal for teams? Not sure it does.

Perhaps a compromise could have been the round at a venue that has an alternate layout i.e. Donington with the loop, or the full GP Silverstone layout? (Yes, I know Gow has poo-pooed this previously, and I get why. It's such a long track, it will make it look like 6 people are attending with empty grandstands and such)
ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 16:53 (Ref:3828941)   #7
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and cue another no soft round (due to risk of tyres going bang) therefore next year 8 races will have tyre choices
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 17:12 (Ref:3828956)   #8
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ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
Yup, all good points.
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ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
The Scottish market would certainly support a second race, as it's absolutely packed for the BTCC event. But I doubt the teams would be up for it. It wasn't long ago that some teams didn't bother going to Knockhill as it was more than a 15 minute drive and they were worried about the costs of having to buy a sausage roll at a service station.
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ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
You've missed out Croft. Any chance of a second meeting there?
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 08:17 (Ref:3828801)   #11
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Knockhill in September? It'll be snowing!

Would've rather they used a different Silverstone layout or the Donington GP track than ran another round at Thruxton. Understand why Rockingham is being moved off. It's actually quite an entertaining track, but the sinking grandstands hint that all is probably not well behind the scenes.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 08:26 (Ref:3828803)   #12
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Btcc is organised by the Barc and this is their circuit and the default option. Just like when silverstone was dropped for a year. Might we see a visit to the new circuit in Northern Ireland for the following year?
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 08:42 (Ref:3828812)   #13
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Bah.

I like Thruxton but it's certainly not the circuit I would pick to go to twice. Shame about Rockingham - obviously I understand there's a whole other side but I always thought it produced excellent racing.

Seems silly to me that it wasn't replaced with Lake Torrent.

Hopefully we'll see more investment going into Thruxton now - pit facilities are pretty poor as is the final chicane, and viewing areas aren't great.

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Seems silly to me that it wasn't replaced with Lake Torrent.
Which isn't yet complete and would need plenty of logistical planning. Ferries aren't cheap, they only visited Mondello because they had a subsidised ferry deal with Irish Ferries and the Irish tourist board.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 09:16 (Ref:3828818)   #15
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Ferries aren't cheap, they only visited Mondello because they had a subsidised ferry deal with Irish Ferries and the Irish tourist board.
Obviously, there would no doubt be budget issues and a trek however small across the pond would increase costs. Although I'd love the BTCC to return to Mondello, considering it's my local track here in Ireland. The rumours were that the Mondello owners couldn't afford to continue hosting the BTCC and that was one of the reasons why the series stopped going.
I don't know if that's true, but in recent times the only major motorsport series Mondello sees is drifting!! The Irish Drift Championship organisers have their offices at the circuit IIRC. Some of the events are actually well planned and executed with some of the world's top drivers making the trip over for it!

Back on topic, I think if there was a genuine shout for Mondello hosting a weekend they'd need to make some updates to the track from both a spectator and drivers point of view.

It's a shame as well because the international loop would provide some great racing!
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