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Old 24 Jul 2018, 14:22 (Ref:3838506)   #126
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Old 24 Jul 2018, 22:35 (Ref:3838621)   #127
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Autosport have also done a bit of a write-up of the event which is available to those that haven't used up their 15 free articles this month

https://www.autosport.com/historics/...historic-debut
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Old 25 Jul 2018, 05:11 (Ref:3838635)   #128
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https://www.autosport.com/historics/...historic-debut
That is a superb race report from someone who was obviously watching!
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Old 25 Jul 2018, 08:12 (Ref:3838650)   #129
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Just reading some of the chat in the supertouring group on facebook, it seems like from some of the people involved that there is a real possibility there wont be a series next year. People saying that its "20 entries for Oulton or no series next year".
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Old 25 Jul 2018, 13:59 (Ref:3838720)   #130
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Cars are very expensive to run,i know someone who ran one in the Formula Saloons,car came with huge amount of spares,most of which were scrap!Cars used lots of one off parts,shame because they are good.
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 08:05 (Ref:3838831)   #131
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Cars are very expensive to run,i know someone who ran one in the Formula Saloons,car came with huge amount of spares,most of which were scrap!Cars used lots of one off parts,shame because they are good.
All race cars are expensive to run!
It’s an expensive hobby
I feel it’s unlikely that late Tin tops will work as they are to sophisticated for your normal joe blow fellow to sort
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 10:10 (Ref:3838846)   #132
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I know racing are expensive to run,ive had 6 over 50 years!
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 12:15 (Ref:3838867)   #133
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That is a superb race report from someone who was obviously watching!
Marcus Pye- had to be!

Combining v Jones and JR’s observations on Super Tourers, the cars were originally built with a lot of one-off parts, making them too sophisticated for a lot of normal historic racers to run..... Even the previous Group A cars were far more trick than they appear from the outside!

Anyone else think it was strange that there were no CSLs in the HTCC race? Lots of them about......
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 12:36 (Ref:3838872)   #134
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Cars are very expensive to run,i know someone who ran one in the Formula Saloons,car came with huge amount of spares,most of which were scrap!Cars used lots of one off parts,shame because they are good.

I believe Cleland had to have some bits made for his Vectra as there are none around (or none of use).
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 12:44 (Ref:3838876)   #135
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Marcus Pye- had to be!

Combining v Jones and JR’s observations on Super Tourers, the cars were originally built with a lot of one-off parts, making them too sophisticated for a lot of normal historic racers to run..... Even the previous Group A cars were far more trick than they appear from the outside!

Anyone else think it was strange that there were no CSLs in the HTCC race? Lots of them about......

I believe the later Volvo S40 ST's ('99 cars) had a lighter and more sophisticated gearbox specially developed that cost a fortune to design, develop, test and build - and was no doubt one of the reasons that Gow went the standardised part route in the regs.


We ran an ST car in BTCC and everything was expensive, gearbox, engine lease and re-builds, aero parts and carbon work - you name it. I believe the Prodrive Mondeo's must have been amongst the most expensive to run, literally all the parts had to come from Prodrive, no wonder Ford spent a fortune in 2000 running them.
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 13:36 (Ref:3838883)   #136
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Is there another series which does run or has run supertourers in the UK?
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 13:43 (Ref:3838886)   #137
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I suppose the super tourers could run in the various regional saloon/gt series and classic touring thunder whatever,bit of a pot hunt,run in rod birleys lot!
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 14:04 (Ref:3838891)   #138
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I suppose the super tourers could run in the various regional saloon/gt series and classic touring thunder whatever,bit of a pot hunt,run in rod birleys lot!
They've run in various saloon championships over the years - usually just one or two cars only though. It's great to see a larger grid of them all together - maybe they could loosen the rules a bit? So you can use non-standard parts (different gearbox / engine) use fibreglass rather than kevlar for panels etc etc. That would bring the cost of running them down.

Classic Thunder would seem the most likely home for them - they'd get stitched up in some of the other championships due to their level of modification - they wouldn't just drop into the "2 litre" class, things like non standard engine location, sequential gearbox would see them jumping up through the class structure.
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 16:45 (Ref:3838914)   #139
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Marcus Pye- had to be!

Combining v Jones and JR’s observations on Super Tourers, the cars were originally built with a lot of one-off parts, making them too sophisticated for a lot of normal historic racers to run..... Even the previous Group A cars were far more trick than they appear from the outside!

Anyone else think it was strange that there were no CSLs in the HTCC race? Lots of them about......
Yes although I thought I heard when listening to the commentary that there was a late addition no55.Normally most of them I've seen racing race with Peter Auto in the Touring Cup
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 16:59 (Ref:3838917)   #140
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I suppose the super tourers could run in the various regional saloon/gt series and classic touring thunder whatever,bit of a pot hunt,run in rod birleys lot!

That's what they did before their own championship/series, mostly running in Formula Saloons, back then.
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 17:06 (Ref:3838919)   #141
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Cars are very expensive to run,i know someone who ran one in the Formula Saloons,car came with huge amount of spares,most of which were scrap!Cars used lots of one off parts,shame because they are good.

Yep, I know! They were all originally built and run as factory works cars on factory budgets (millions per year by the end of 99/2000) with the commensurate parts lifing, which is why you will see the retirements in this type of racing, the cars are high tech to run, the parts and running gear/engines will be tired and all hard/expensive to replace. Ash Sutton's Honda blew and engine on the SC test day!
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 22:08 (Ref:3838970)   #142
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Old 26 Jul 2018, 23:13 (Ref:3838975)   #143
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Definitely in favour of dropping Super Tourers.
Poor entries prevail at most rounds with Brands scraping the race before the meeting started.
Maybe a couple of feature races a year would be appropriate.
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Old 27 Jul 2018, 06:38 (Ref:3839026)   #144
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Old 28 Jul 2018, 05:50 (Ref:3839218)   #147
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Saturday-only spectator on Car Club deal this year. Decent value that way.
Having trekked the length and breadth of Silverstone for the Blancpain and British GT, took the easy route and settled in the Village grandstand for the day.
Some good racing and big screen opposite helped.
Took photos through the day, but really needed more than 200mm lens. So far only Masters Endurance on Flickr at - https://www.flickr.com/gp/dwh38/oi28h0
Not sure we need BoP on that series - surely its about seeing the cars raced, not pot-hunting (or am I deluded ?).
Surprised to see a Tesla parade lap - feels like Silverstone have sold their soul ! (Yeah, I know it might be the future, but we ain't there yet)
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Nowt wrong with Teslas .... I prefer the sight and sound of a Lola T70 of course but as a road car the Tesla is brilliant. And it's more interesting as amarque than some of the dreck given a parade. Not that I would have any parades at all as even a 1000 dawdling 911s is dull compared to a Formula Junior race.



I believe the Tesla OC had volunteered to provide shuttle service for drivers and VIPs between national and international paddocks so they earned their moment in the sun .
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Nowt wrong with Teslas .... I prefer the sight and sound of a Lola T70 of course but as a road car the Tesla is brilliant. And it's more interesting as a marque than some of the dreck given a parade. Not that I would have any parades at all...

I believe the Tesla OC had volunteered to provide shuttle service for drivers and VIPs between national and international paddocks so they earned their moment in the sun .
I remember the BDC having a parade 10 years or so ago, and when the leading cars were coming round to start a second lap they were confronted by cars still flooding on.... Chaos!

Yes the Tesla ‘owners group’ (not club apparently) thoroughly deserved a lap or two after volunteering their cars all weekend. Very much appreciated by many of us!
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