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Old 13 Jun 2018, 14:18 (Ref:3828893)   #31
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If I recall correctly, the reason British GT stopped running at Castle Combe was due to the noise limit imposed by the council planning committee. I believe the BTCC runs at an upper limit of 115dB(A), but Combe's upper limit is 108dB.

Nice idea, but won't happen.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 14:35 (Ref:3828894)   #32
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Series director Alan Gow said Thruxton's extra event was an experiment for 2019 but that other current circuits could get additional rounds beyond that.

"We will double up at Thruxton and see how that goes - although that 'spare' date that we now have isn't set in stone," he explained.

"We will try Thruxton, but equally we could double up at other venues in years to come.

"We have had two rounds at places like Oulton Park before, and that has worked well."
From this I would like to think it will be for 2019 only, and then hopefully be replaced by Lake Torrent for 2020 onwards.

On the Rockingham side, from a TV viewer's perspective it is a circuit that really suits the BTCC, so I would love to see it back in the near future.

Maybe if they demolish the top half of the oval and sell off the land, they can improve the spectator facilities.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 15:14 (Ref:3828904)   #33
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Someone mentioned street circuit and I'd love to see that happen but unfortunately there's no street circuit in the UK. Formula E raced on Battersea Park in one season but they no longer race there and no one would allow loud racing cars there.
I'd like to see how BTCC race would look like on a street circuit. In Aussie Supercars, street races look great but I suspect BTCC would be destruction derby.
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Someone mentioned street circuit and I'd love to see that happen but unfortunately there's no street circuit in the UK. Formula E raced on Battersea Park in one season but they no longer race there and no one would allow loud racing cars there.
I'd like to see how BTCC race would look like on a street circuit. In Aussie Supercars, street races look great but I suspect BTCC would be destruction derby.

Temporary circuit infrastructure costs are terrifying, I can't see TOCA or a promoter commiting to that and the days of local authorities funding things like this to promote the city or area are long gone.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 16:50 (Ref:3828938)   #35
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Brands Hatch Indy ó You can see it all from the grandstand.

Knockhill ó You can see all of it from the central hill area.



I agree that on paper, a fresh track is the best solution for fans at first. But does Mondello have easy access, space in the paddock for the now massive hospitality for a big grid and a cheap (i.e. free) ferry deal for teams? Not sure it does.

Perhaps a compromise could have been the round at a venue that has an alternate layout i.e. Donington with the loop, or the full GP Silverstone layout? (Yes, I know Gow has poo-pooed this previously, and I get why. It's such a long track, it will make it look like 6 people are attending with empty grandstands and such)
ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 16:53 (Ref:3828941)   #36
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and cue another no soft round (due to risk of tyres going bang) therefore next year 8 races will have tyre choices
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 17:12 (Ref:3828956)   #37
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ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
Yup, all good points.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 17:29 (Ref:3828968)   #38
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Anglesey Circuit? Would need the start line not next to the pits.
Pembrey and Kirkistown have access issues to the paddock (well no access during races unless temporary bridge added).
Mallory Park, just no

Continental Europe?
Zandvoort, Zolder, Assen, Le Mans, Nurburgring, Spa, Val de Vienne, Mettet, Magny-Cours. Probably too costly, Knockhill is bad enough for some teams.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 17:39 (Ref:3828980)   #39
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Anglesey Circuit? Would need the start line not next to the pits.
Pembrey and Kirkistown have access issues to the paddock (well no access during races unless temporary bridge added).
Mallory Park, just no

Continental Europe?
Zandvoort, Zolder, Assen, Le Mans, Nurburgring, Spa, Val de Vienne, Mettet, Magny-Cours. Probably too costly, Knockhill is bad enough for some teams.
what? anglesey, kirkistown, pembery and mallory have nowhere near the infrastructure to deal with the size of the btcc. they are 'club racing' venues.

and why would the btcc bother to do a very expensive round in continental europe and just completely ignore its fanbase in the uk?
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ITV won't like the GP circuit at Silverstone as it requires so much more resources than the current National track.

The Donington loop doesn't add anything to the racing. I would like to see OP getting a second visit although judging by the recent snoozefest I doubt many people will want to see another meeting there.

So that leaves Snetterton and Knockhill, I can't see the Scottish market support a second meeting north of the border.

So in future it looks like Thruxton and Snetterton will share the second meeting.
The Scottish market would certainly support a second race, as it's absolutely packed for the BTCC event. But I doubt the teams would be up for it. It wasn't long ago that some teams didn't bother going to Knockhill as it was more than a 15 minute drive and they were worried about the costs of having to buy a sausage roll at a service station.
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 18:06 (Ref:3829005)   #41
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This might be a subtle hint to some other tracks, such as Cadwell and Castle Combe that they may be considered if they improved their infrastructure to accommodate the large crowds that attend and the number of facilities that the TOCA package requires to operate successfully for a weekend.
I don't read it that way at all. It's a subtle reminder of exactly why the BTCC can't/won't go to other tracks. Something which Gow has explained on more than one occasion.

You would hope it would stop the endless 'why don't you go to [Cadwell / Anglesea / insert circuit of choice]' questions, but seemingly not. Based on comments on some social media it's clear that many fans ever see the headline and don't bother to read full story.
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Zandvoort, Zolder, Assen, Le Mans, Nurburgring, Spa, Val de Vienne, Mettet, Magny-Cours. Probably too costly, Knockhill is bad enough for some teams.
back in 2005-2006 British GT had races in France, how the heck was this possible and not BTCC
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back in 2005-2006 British GT had races in France, how the heck was this possible and not BTCC
BGT still races at Spa.
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back in 2005-2006 British GT had races in France, how the heck was this possible and not BTCC
because they donít have a very large uk fanbase to ignore and upset.

of course btcc could race in France or Belgium but why on earth would they want the teams to spend a lot of money doing that which will also reduce the amount of people watching the championship!
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back in 2005-2006 British GT had races in France, how the heck was this possible and not BTCC
BGT has a significant amount of 'wealth', or put simply Gentlemen with expensive weekend hobbies, so the cash flow model differs.

BTCC teams are utterly dependent on sponsors cash: there are not really any Gentlemen drivers: Mr George is the last one I would sit in that category. I will add a thoroughly decent Gentleman too, whose hobby assisted others presence on the grid.

I do believe our Scottish brethren would turn out en masse for two events: one early season and the other late Aug/ early Sep would work. There are a number of Scottish race series that could potentially cover the support package too if the F4, Clios etc. were exempted from the travel. Several BTCC teams did cry off Knockhill before the licencing system: yes, it's not exactly local for Bartie or Shaun H, but a days run in a HGV can cover the distance.
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