FIA GT GT4 - The future...? - Page 14

hondafan37 · 3 Dec 2016, 23:18 (Ref:3693427)

New Mercedes AMG GT4
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/1...w-amg-gt4.html

Bcarr6 · 4 Dec 2016, 12:56 (Ref:3693549)

I'm kinda unsure on this, quite like it when manu's have separate cars for GT3 and GT4 like what Macca has done

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hondafan37 · 4 Dec 2016, 14:24 (Ref:3693572)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

I'm kinda unsure on this, quite like it when manu's have separate cars for GT3 and GT4 like what Macca has done

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I think like you, I do not like the same car model race in GT3 and GT4.
The bad thing is that Audi will do the same with the R8.

TF110 · 5 Dec 2016, 03:00 (Ref:3693724)

Kinda dumb imo. Why not differentiate the models the same way the classes do? Guess Mercedes couldn't wait for a smaller coupe to be produced to jump on the gt4 bandwagon, so they just used the same car.

fausto · 5 Dec 2016, 08:23 (Ref:3693779)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Kinda dumb imo. Why not differentiate the models the same way the classes do? Guess Mercedes couldn't wait for a smaller coupe to be produced to jump on the gt4 bandwagon, so they just used the same car.

It'd mean also economies of scale. Shouldn't be surprised if some'll start offering a conversion kit "GT4 to GT3" just like Ferrari did for the 488.
On a different note GT4 has good potential as a market, with big manufacturers coming in the room for small constructors (KTM, Sin) will probably shrink

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 09:18 (Ref:3693789)

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Originally Posted by fausto

It'd mean also economies of scale. Shouldn't be surprised if some'll start offering a conversion kit "GT4 to GT3" just like Ferrari did for the 488.
On a different note GT4 has good potential as a market, with big manufacturers coming in the room for small constructors (KTM, Sin) will probably shrink

There is no Ferrari GT4 but I suppose you refers to the 488 transformation between GTE and GT3. I World like to see a California GT4 but I think it is easier to adapt the 488 challenge presented the other day.

TzeiTzei · 5 Dec 2016, 09:18 (Ref:3693790)

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Originally Posted by fausto

It'd mean also economies of scale. Shouldn't be surprised if some'll start offering a conversion kit "GT4 to GT3" just like Ferrari did for the 488.

On a different note GT4 has good potential as a market, with big manufacturers coming in the room for small constructors (KTM, Sin) will probably shrink

GT5 is just around the corner then

fausto · 5 Dec 2016, 09:32 (Ref:3693798)

[QUOTE=hondafan37;3693789]There is no Ferrari GT4 but I suppose you refers to the 488 transformation between GTE and GT3. I World like to see a California GT4 but I think it is easier to adapt the 488 challenge presented the other day

Yes, sorry, for Ferrari meant "GT3-GTE"

fausto · 5 Dec 2016, 09:35 (Ref:3693800)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

There is no Ferrari GT4 but I suppose you refers to the 488 transformation between GTE and GT3. I World like to see a California GT4 but I think it is easier to adapt the 488 challenge presented the other day.

There are rumours around regarding a V6 engined "Dino", it'd eventually make a good base for a GT4 racer

rich07 · 5 Dec 2016, 09:57 (Ref:3693809)

Why doesn't someone build a GT4 California?

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 11:48 (Ref:3693856)

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Why doesn't someone build a GT4 California?

Will be fantastic!!!!
Perhaps the Maserati GT4 could be a great platform for the California

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 11:51 (Ref:3693858)

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There are rumours around regarding a V6 engined "Dino", it'd eventually make a good base for a GT4 racer

When does the Dino begin to be manufactured?

fausto · 5 Dec 2016, 12:08 (Ref:3693862)

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When does the Dino begin to be manufactured?

Really don't know, rumour is around, not for the very first time, since some months

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 13:05 (Ref:3693875)

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Really don't know, rumour is around, not for the very first time, since some months

Hopefully it will come true, the V6 should be the Alfa Romeo Giulia engine of 510 HP.

Coach Ep · 5 Dec 2016, 14:17 (Ref:3693892)

Is GT5 being created already?

NaBUru38 · 5 Dec 2016, 14:24 (Ref:3693894)

GT4 should have the Audi TT, BMW Z4, Mercedes SLC, Porsche Cayman and Nissan Z.

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 14:57 (Ref:3693901)

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GT4 should have the Audi TT, BMW Z4, Mercedes SLC, Porsche Cayman and Nissan Z.

That was the original idea, In the British GT raced, Manda MX5 and Toyota 86.
I think as it says Coach EP a GT5 is needed for these small coupe

Speed-King · 5 Dec 2016, 15:03 (Ref:3693902)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

That was the original idea, In the British GT raced, Manda MX5 and Toyota 86.
I think as it says Coach EP a GT5 is needed for these small coupe

If you want to protect the coupes, you need a displacement limit a la 1980s IMSA GTU.

And even then you need to give people a good reason to go there, instead of springing for a second-hand car from the larger category.

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 15:28 (Ref:3693907)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

If you want to protect the coupes, you need a displacement limit a la 1980s IMSA GTU.

And even then you need to give people a good reason to go there, instead of springing for a second-hand car from the larger category.

Good idea, maybe the organizers are not so interested in the small coupe.

Speed-King · 5 Dec 2016, 15:58 (Ref:3693913)

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Good idea, maybe the organizers are not so interested in the small coupe.

It didn't help that the small RWD coupe was almost dead in Europe during the 2000s...

hondafan37 · 5 Dec 2016, 16:26 (Ref:3693919)

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It didn't help that the small RWD coupe was almost dead in Europe during the 2000s...

Sure is true, and now there are also few small coupe RWD. The brands are more interested in GTI type cars, like Megane RS, Focus ST, Scirocco, Civic Type R Etc....I guess the market demands more of these cars.
Maybe the TCR is the answer to that and a GT5 is not needed.
Personally I prefer the small coupes RWD to the GTI, the Toyota 86 is a fantastic car for me.

Endurance -info says that 4 more brands would be entering GT4 in a medium term.
I think one is Audi with the R8, another could be Lexus with the RC-F that already raced in VLN SP8 this year and also it was testing in Sebring recently.
I do not know what the other brands might be. Ferrari?
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/la-...e-un-peu-plus/

**FIRE** · 5 Dec 2016, 18:02 (Ref:3693943)

GT4 the new GT3.

Bcarr6 · 5 Dec 2016, 19:53 (Ref:3693970)

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GT4 the new GT3.

I'd rather we stay with GT3 as the new GT3... I find GT4 too stock for the most part.

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Rodger Davies · 6 Dec 2016, 00:09 (Ref:3694017)

They're evolving quickly though, both in aero and price tags.....

History will repeat itself, I'm sure.

peckstar · 6 Dec 2016, 00:16 (Ref:3694020)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

I'd rather we stay with GT3 as the new GT3... I find GT4 too stock for the most part.

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But Gt3 is getting expensive. tripling in price in the last few years

GT4 is more affordable although even they are starting to get up cost

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