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Old 16 Mar 2017, 15:50 (Ref:3719092)   #101
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Don't hate the playa hate the game Ford is not hanging about is it? Glad to see a non-caddy up front too.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 15:53 (Ref:3719095)   #102
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Don't hate the playa hate the game Ford is not hanging about is it? Glad to see a non-caddy up front too.
Caddy is only 0.041 seconds back though. Just imagine if they hadn't been pegged back!
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 16:09 (Ref:3719100)   #103
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Caddy is only 0.041 seconds back though. Just imagine if they hadn't been pegged back!
I think they probably still have some left in them. Looks like the Ford isn't alone in the 57's, Porsche up front with a 1:57.1!
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 18:00 (Ref:3719134)   #104
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Bryan Sellers only 9 thousandths of a second ahead of the Aschenbach R8 for p1/2 in GTD. That's damn close.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 18:05 (Ref:3719139)   #105
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I think they probably still have some left in them. Looks like the Ford isn't alone in the 57's, Porsche up front with a 1:57.1!
GTLM and GTD lap times are impressive. By the time qualifying is over. The GTLMs could be matching the old GT1 lap times and GTD could be matching GTLM going back to 2011-2012.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 19:26 (Ref:3719164)   #106
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Afternoon practice is underway, and teams are just starting to get on track and up to speed.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 20:33 (Ref:3719185)   #107
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 21:43 (Ref:3719194)   #108
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Sebring 12h: Cadillac 1-2-3 in second practice
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Pretty mind blowing to think just how far off the original pre-season BoP was with all of IMSA's supposed incredible computer data simulations.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 23:32 (Ref:3719220)   #109
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Old 17 Mar 2017, 02:19 (Ref:3719237)   #111
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oh god are we gonna do the bop *****fest AGAIN
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Caddy is only 0.041 seconds back though. Just imagine if they hadn't been pegged back!
I heard an interview with one
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oh god are we gonna do the bop *****fest AGAIN
That's what happens when you have a series that relies on BOP vs development.
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Old 17 Mar 2017, 03:41 (Ref:3719253)   #114
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I heard that too. Makes you wonder how many HP they had to start with?! That must be one heck of an engine.
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Old 17 Mar 2017, 03:58 (Ref:3719259)   #115
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That's what happens when you have a series that relies on BOP vs development.
I'd still take that BOP series over the series where you spend squillions of dollars on development and you're left with 1 1/2 factory teams.

Just seems like a lot of people *****ing need to realize that none of this stuff matters in the long run, it's a fun bit of entertainment for us fans, and if you take it too seriously you're not gonna enjoy anything.
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Old 17 Mar 2017, 07:24 (Ref:3719291)   #116
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Damn I thought I was watching a sport at some point.

I rather question who is really taking things too seriously here.
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You can't complain DPi is too BoP'd. That's exactly what IMSA said they would do.

I don't like BoP, but DPi would not exist without it. The entire reason we've got styled bodies and different engine solutions is because of the BoP.
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All of us understand the need for BoP. All we want is Fair and Accurate BoP.
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All of us understand the need for BoP. All we want is Fair and Accurate BoP.
Pegging back the Caddy from it's massive advantage is fair isn't it? It's a BoP class, not a development class, and it currently isn't balanced.

There is not a "need" for a BoP. That's a choice IMSA went down. They could've chosen a development class, but they didn't.
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The trouble with air restrictors is they will only limit the peak power at peak revs, but the advantage of this 6.2L engine is its high torque characteristic at low revs which launches them off every corner, this is most likely why they are still flying as the restrictor will not affect this low rpm region......fair credit to Cadillac, GM & Dallara, the package is obviously well sorted and it shows they have been working on this project for 2 years already.......opposed to the rest of the field who hastily cobbled together packages in the last 6 to 12 months.
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Let me be clear, Taylor was not complaining AT ALL.
Just offering up a tid bit which I thought was interesting.
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Dang that Cadillac Dallara DPi looks like a P1 without a hybrid system
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Dang that Cadillac Dallara DPi looks like a P1 without a hybrid system
Personally I'm preying the ACO and IMSA can stitch together a deal to get the Cadillacs over for the 2017 LeMans race, lets be honest LMP1 is well down on cars this year with 3 Audis and 2 Rebellions leaving the class........having 2 or 3 Cadillacs turn up would really help the numbers.......perhaps even the ESM-Nissans could be tempted also?
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Personally I'm preying the ACO and IMSA can stitch together a deal to get the Cadillacs over for the 2017 LeMans race, lets be honest LMP1 is well down on cars this year with 3 Audis and 2 Rebellions leaving the class........having 2 or 3 Cadillacs turn up would really help the numbers.......perhaps even the ESM-Nissans could be tempted also?
I think the ACO is sort nervous about opening the DPi beyond where it currently at. It will be interesting to see what happens if IMSA grabs another 3 or so manufacturers throughout the season (Honda sounds like they are already in with Penske and a Joest something project would put all of the globes best privateers in the class/series).

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I think the French mindset (the ACO) is too stubborn to admit the Americans got it right......again (starting with merging WSC, LMP1, GT1, and LMGT1 to form a single class)
The Americans got it right but needed the French base to do it.

The ACO is too stubborn, and Ginetta is saying they'll have 6 cars on the grid in 2018. So that'll add to the stubbornness.

As for 2017, hasn't the entry list been announced? I don't think you should have a DPi in 2017 because it'd mean booting out another car. Unless it was put in after the current reserves. 2018 is another matter.
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