2016 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour: 4-7 February

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by mayhem

If we're talking about an all day Saturday coverage it depends on the cost to produce the content vs the numbers tuning in and the sponsors that can be drawn to pay to be a part of it.

i was just hoping for an hour with the last session of qualifying shown

just add that 7 is currently in a year by year deal.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

the criteria that Tv numbers would need to grow reasonably to encourage saturday coverage

That isn't a criteria

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

That isn't a criteria

No i looked up its meaning, it is

[MaskedRacer]

I think I have come to accept that because of the nature of the track with the narrow mountain sectors. Lots of FCY's is going to be inevitable for every race they run at Bathurst.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

I think I have come to accept that because of the nature of the track with the narrow mountain sectors. Lots of FCY's is going to be inevitable for every race they run at Bathurst.

Well, at least until they start using Mil 8 helos as snatch vehicles...

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

No i looked up its meaning, it is

So what's the magic number Peckstar for Saturday coverage - considering your extensive network television and live broadcasting knowledge and experience

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

So what's the magic number Peckstar for Saturday coverage - considering your extensive network television and live broadcasting knowledge and experience

Ive already told you, you seem to disagree (what's new). Maybe you can tell me what you think needs to happen to get a saturday telecast

However its now been a week since I asked you to tell me which bathurst 12 hour was better and im still waiting, so i wont be holding my breath on getting an answer

[D.R.T.]

Suggesting more than 227,000 viewers are needed on Sunday to justify a Saturday telecast doesn't add up.

If 200,000 watched Saturday qualifying I think channel 7 would be suitably wrapped

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Suggesting more than 227,000 viewers are needed on Sunday to justify a Saturday telecast doesn't add up.

If 200,000 watched Saturday qualifying I think channel 7 would be suitably wrapped

Im sure they would be wrapped with 200,000, But that wasn't the question

What needs to happen to encourage ch 7 (or other ch ) to show a saturday telecast?

I wonder if you will ever answer.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

What needs to happen to encourage ch 7 (or other ch ) to show a saturday telecast?

I wonder if you will ever answer.

We are coming full circle however as previously discussed it's not a pre defined number you have in your head

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

We are coming full circle however as previously discussed it's not a pre defined number you have in your head

Still waiting! What needs to happen to encourage ch 7 (or other ch ) to show a saturday telecast?

[D.R.T.]

Mate not sure in which post I proclaimed to have the answer?

That was you. I have suggested that it isn't solely reliant upon an increased Sunday viewership

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Mate not sure in which post I proclaimed to have the answer?

That was you. I have suggested that it isn't solely reliant upon an increased Sunday viewership

still waiting, what is it reliant on? if tv ratings are not improving whats going to make a tv channel want show the saturday?

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

still waiting, what is it reliant on? if tv ratings are not improving whats going to make a tv channel want show the saturday?

Still waiting for what?

The ability to get similar ratings on Saturday that the event is currently getting on the Sunday - could be of interest to a broadcaster?

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

if tv ratings are not improving whats going to make a tv channel want show the saturday?

Someone to stump up the $$$$ to buy the airtime

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Still waiting for what?

The ability to get similar ratings on Saturday that the event is currently getting on the Sunday - could be of interest to a broadcaster?

so your assumption is that a saturday telecast would rate almost as good as a sunday telecast, even though similar events dont support this

and you expect a tv ch , who currently hasnt signed for 2017 to take the risk even though the main race weekend coverage doesnt have reasonable growth

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

so your assumption is that a saturday telecast would rate almost as good as a sunday telecast, even though similar events dont support this

Where did I assume this?

I have suggested if the broadcaster feels they can gain the same or similar tv ratings for Saturday that it achieved on Sunday than this might sway them to broadcast it.

Remember that the 227,000 is an average (not cumulative nor peak) over 12 hours where as you would be only looking a 1 or 2 hour maximum broadcast on the Saturday.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Where did I assume this?

I have suggested if the broadcaster feels they can gain the same or similar tv ratings for Saturday that it achieved on Sunday than this might sway them to broadcast it.

Remember that the 227,000 is an average (not cumulative nor peak) over 12 hours where as you would be only looking a 1 or 2 hour maximum broadcast on the Saturday.

so what is going to give the broadcaster that "feeling"? still my original question really!

at the moment you have suggested that the sat coverage will rate the same as sunday even though history with similar events show that doesnt happen? so for something to happen to change that would require some new thinking for the saturday, history shows that change is a negative for 12 hour fans on this forum

227 was an average for ch 7 only. Mate ,according to the figures supplied was less than 100k, similar to last year

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

so your assumption is that a saturday telecast would rate almost as good as a sunday telecast, even though similar events dont support this

and you expect a tv ch , who currently hasnt signed for 2017 to take the risk even though the main race weekend coverage doesnt have reasonable growth

Not to get too involved into your's and DRT's ever entertaining debates, but YOU peckstar were the one calling for Saturday TV coverage, not DRT, so i'm not sure why he has to prove anything??

If not enough people are watching to make Saturday worthwhile from a TV Channel investment point of view, it will require someone to buy the airtime.

Maybe it would be in the interests of the new organisers to perhaps buy some Saturday afternoon airtime to televise the qualifying session to raise the interest & attendance to the levels you seem to require for 2018 and beyond?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by one five five

Not to get too involved into your's and DRT's ever entertaining debates, but YOU peckstar were the one calling for Saturday TV coverage, not DRT, so i'm not sure why he has to prove anything??

If not enough people are watching to make Saturday worthwhile from a TV Channel investment point of view, it will require someone to buy the airtime.

Maybe it would be in the interests of the new organisers to perhaps buy some Saturday afternoon airtime to televise the qualifying session to raise the interest & attendance to the levels you seem to require for 2018 and beyond?

Sorry no i didnt, i said the ratings would probably not be good enough, DRT said that the ratings were not important.

The interest and attendance is not what i want, its what the promoters want,
I guess they could pay for saturday, but why and who is going to pay, that would mean extra cost for teams

the interest needs to be there to encourage a tv channel to show it, the ratings, currently dont suggest they do

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Sorry no i didnt, i said the ratings would probably not be good enough, DRT said that the ratings were not important.

Come on mate. Do you actually read the posts or just summarise them to suit your narrative?

I was saying that your ratings were not important not Channel 7s

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Come on mate. Do you actually read the posts or just summarise them to suit your narrative?

I was saying that your ratings were not important not Channel 7s

sorry still waiting for you to answer the question.

what is going to cause a tv channel to take a risk on saturday coverage? apart from "feelings" of which the ratings dont support

i dont have ratings, channel 7 has them. and the ratings for the 12 hour were not up on 2015, those ratings were not enough to show a saturday coverage this year

for soem reason ratings were important to you all through the v8 season and now they mean nothing

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by peckstar

cheers. thinking they may not be good enough to get a saturday telecast

DRT im still trying to work out what is wrong with that comment and what you argument is against it?

its clearly an opinion with a may not in it.

and yet you have not in two pages been able to articulate a clear opinion against this. but still you argue.

[D.R.T.]

Might be time to leave it Pecky - to be perfectly honest this is resembling speaking to a brick wall

[1961]

My previous invitation still stands.

Feel free to join us at the track.

I've watched Saturday qualifying live for years.

Don't need TV for that.

Money where your mouth is...