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Old 19 Jun 2008, 21:49 (Ref:2233010)   #1
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Jaguar's comeback?
It was reported that there were people from Jaguar and Apex Motorsport evaluating and seeing what's going on in Le Mans. They already run the Jaguar XKR GT3s but speculating is always funny. Why would they specifically come to Le Mans to watch the GT scene? Especially with the uncertainty of future GT classes. And remember Jaguar's new owners.

ps. Is tobacco advertising still allowed in Le Mans?
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Old 19 Jun 2008, 21:52 (Ref:2233014)   #2
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Tobacco adverts are a real no no in France.

Maybe the Jag boys were on freebies from the Aston team to show what side of the bed they should have been on when Ford sold them
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Old 19 Jun 2008, 22:10 (Ref:2233023)   #3
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ps. Is tobacco advertising still allowed in Le Mans?
Just do what Marroboro does on tge F1 Ferrari's. Put the Marroboro bar code on the car.

Your eye catches that bar code, your brain see's it as Marroboro.

Go figure
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 00:17 (Ref:2233072)   #4
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Just do what Marroboro does on tge F1 Ferrari's. Put the Marroboro bar code on the car.

Your eye catches that bar code, your brain see's it as Marroboro.

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Old 20 Jun 2008, 01:08 (Ref:2233098)   #5
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I dont smoke so what ever . . ..
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 01:13 (Ref:2233099)   #6
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Neither do I, and that was just jokey hint at Silk Cut. So now back to Jaguar please.
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 08:39 (Ref:2233213)   #7
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Hi,

It will be very interesting to see if Jaguar returns, in LMP form.
Perhaps in LMP2 form just to relive the glory days of Jaguar vs Porsche
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I'm hoping for a customer programme with the XKR and an LMP1 EVO works effort in Jaguar Racing Green
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 13:11 (Ref:2233429)   #9
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Is the XJR V8 engine up to protoype work?

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It was reported that there were people from Jaguar and Apex Motorsport evaluating and seeing what's going on in Le Mans. They already run the Jaguar XKR GT3s but speculating is always funny. Why would they specifically come to Le Mans to watch the GT scene? Especially with the uncertainty of future GT classes. And remember Jaguar's new owners.

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Maybe they just went because they wanted to camp out, have a few drinks and watch a motor race?
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 14:39 (Ref:2233493)   #11
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A lovely thought, which campsite were they in..........?
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 17:12 (Ref:2233611)   #12
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If they step up from GT3 to something bigger I think it will be GT2.
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 17:30 (Ref:2233619)   #13
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Not a lot bigger then..........
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 19:21 (Ref:2233716)   #14
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Maybe they just went because they wanted to camp out, have a few drinks and watch a motor race?
Maybe. But speculating is fun.
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 20:17 (Ref:2233730)   #15
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Yep, just to see Tata take on the Apex program would be wonderful. And bring the program to GT-2 (1 in 2010 spec?) with factory blessing (works in 2010?).
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 21:04 (Ref:2233748)   #16
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Better than nothing.
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Old 20 Jun 2008, 21:50 (Ref:2233775)   #17
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Jaguar certainly needs something, they're back to their old mans car image.

The likes of Audi are light years ahead in the cool stakes, even though Jaguars new roadcar models look good.

Aston Martin have attracted so much positive attention at Le Mans in recent years, Jaguar would be bigger still.

Just as Ferrari needs F1, Jaguar needs Le Mans.
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Just as Ferrari needs F1, Jaguar needs Le Mans.
They certainly didn't need their F1 programme...
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I fear that if they went back into (any kind of) racing it would be all metallic green marketing and little winning. Jaguar shuttle buses everywhere, but no Le Mans victories. Hopefully I am wrong. I'd like it to happen, but I'd rather it didn't than it did and was done poorly.

In addition I feel it should be for overall wins, not just GT. They're not as small as Aston so it should be higher.
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Jaguar certainly needs something, they're back to their old mans car image.
Jaguar are no longer sports cars. Most Jags on this side of the pond arn't even old man cars, they are old lady cars and limp wristers

Jag needs sports car racing like a hole in the head.
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Jaguar are no longer sports cars. Most Jags on this side of the pond arn't even old man cars, they are old lady cars and limp wristers

Jag needs sports car racing like a hole in the head.
Huh, simply by your perception of Jaguar you validate JAG's statement. They need to change the product's image if they wish to get back to being Jaguar and not a Ford luxury group brand!

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The new Jaguar XKR-S looks like it could be the basis for a GT2 winner, they could even launch a track day version to compete with the 911 RS and 430 equivalent to ram home the sportier image.



While the new Jaguar XF certainly looks like they are attacking the BMW, Audi, Mercedes sports saloon market, rather than settling for the old man image.

What they now need is a renewed sporting image, and that only comes with success on the track. I'm certain a Jaguar LMP1 and GT2 would be even more popular than Aston Martin.

A few years back this may have been fanciful talk, but with the new owners, the revival of sportscar racing, Evo/single GT class regs, and a desperate need to back up the new Jaguar road car models with a cool, sporty image, I'd say Jaguar would be fools if they didn't take this opportunity.
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those pics are darn fine, I mean great looking cars, But wind up like the old ford thunderbird, started out as a sports car 1954-56, then went to a pheudo luxery sports two seater.

ie they lost their image.

In my opinion, for what ever that meansm, scrap the luxo crap, gut the son of a gun, cloth seats, no radio, minimal computer aids, minimal carpet, short gear ratio linked to a V8 or V10. 450-500 bhp.


Oh those jaguar TV advertisements. WHollly crap, if those ads arnt' aimed strait for the limp wristeds they need to fire their ad agency
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Come back, please!

Cool or what!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPdK...eature=related

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XKR GT1 now, perhaps

I think it could (SHOULD) happen.

But only if Stephane Ratel sorts some GT rules with the FIA and ACO.

Sorry Stephane, but sort it out :@
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