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Old 16 Jul 2014, 19:20 (Ref:3434616)   #46
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The Rover was on it's last legs in term of homologation in 1990, as it lapsed at the end of the year. The 635 was group A legal to the end of 1993, when the whole category was more or less obsolete, while the newer of two Ford Mustang homologations survived the BMW by two years.

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Old 5 Oct 2017, 03:17 (Ref:3771941)   #47
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1990 was probably one of, if not the most competitive of the Group A and Group C years in Australia.

At any given race any of the top teams could win (some obviously would need luck in the ATCC. The Holden's weren't really a factor in that). Johnson & Bowe, Brock & Miedecke, Seton & Fury, Bond, Longhurst & Jones in the Fords, Gibbo's boys in the Nissan's and even Pommy Percy and Larry Perkins in the V8 Commodore's were a chance. Yes the ATCC was still a turbo benefit and no one really expected anything different, but the Commodore's were coming on strong and a full season of development on the race track would finally see the Walkinshaw VL as a force come the late season enduros.

The Sierra's were probably at the peak of their development, before 1992's CAMS enforced 7,500 rev limit showed them that there was an alternative path to fast lap times other than outright horsepower. The HR31 Skyline was similar in that it was at the peak of its development in 1990 and in Jimmy Richards, Nissan had just the right driver to exploit it. And of course Nissan had the better than anything else GT-R waiting to be unleashed mid-season.

And for the first time since Perkins ran his team under the HSV banner in 1988, there was a factory Holden team on the grid with Win Percy running the newly formed HRT and doing the driving. A Pom running an Australian factory backed team that was owned by a Scotsman took a bit of getting used to for those who grew up worshiping Brocky and the HDT. But I think most Holden fans were just happy that they had a V8 Commodore or two to cheer for after two years of domination by that blue oval mob.

Here is a bit of interesting information regarding the 1990 Tooheys 1000. Some of you might already know, but some who read this might not be aware that Fred Gibson's team pulled a very VERY illegal swifty the night before the race.....

I don't know what the actual problem was, but late on the Saturday afternoon the team discovered something very wrong with the brand new GT-R that Richo had qualified 11th. It was actually enough that the car simply could not race and there was nowhere near enough time to fix the problem. There remained 2 solutions. Scratch the car which was undesirable as the boss of NISMO (Mr Aoki) was at Bathurst to see the car in action. Or they could do something totally illegal and race a completely different car, but they had to make sure they got away with it. So, under the cover of darkness that night the team swapped everything they could....including Seven's racecam unit and the compliance plates, and put it all into the spare GT-R which was the one Skaife had debuted at Mallala earlier in the year. The ATCC car masquerading as the new car lined up on the grid the next morning with Richo ready to storm to the lead and put the fear of God into the Sierra's and no one knew anything about what had gone on the night before.
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 09:58 (Ref:3772027)   #48
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Scratch the car which was undesirable as the boss of NISMO (Mr Aoki) was at Bathurst to see the car in action. Or they could do something totally illegal and race a completely different car, but they had to make sure they got away with it.
That would be Mr Kazuo HIOKI.

So, what was the *big problem* with the original car?
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 01:52 (Ref:3782800)   #49
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That would be Mr Kazuo HIOKI.

So, what was the *big problem* with the original car?
Thanks for the clarification

As to the problem, I honestly don't know what it was but it was big enough to have Gibbo's team do what they did. The story is true though and the car they raced was not the car that had qualified.
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Old 25 Sep 2018, 14:32 (Ref:3852630)   #50
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1990 Shell Ultra Australian Touring Car Championship
Round 5 - Lakeside, QLD (6/5/1990)


Circuit Length: 2.41 km
Race Duration: 50 minutes (54 laps)
Weather: Sunny

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
18Caltex CXT RacingColin BondFord Sierra Cosworth RS500150m41.06s 0m55.03s0m54.52s9
205Mobil 1 RacingPeter BrockFord Sierra Cosworth RS500150m52.33s 0m55.55s0m54.93s13
316Holden Racing TeamWin PercyHolden Commodore VL (TWR)151m04.48s 0m55.38s0m54.65s12
418Shell Ultra Hi RacingJohn BoweFord Sierra Cosworth RS500151m06.65s 0m54.90s0m54.00s4
52Nissan Motor SportJim RichardsNissan Skyline GTS-R HR-31151m20.15s 0m55.40s0m54.46s8
63Nissan Motor SportMark SkaifeNissan Skyline GTS-R HR-31151m20.83s 0m54.96s0m54.37s6
717Shell Ultra Hi RacingDick JohnsonFord Sierra Cosworth RS500151m31.20s 0m54.40s0m53.76s2
825Benson & Hedges RacingTony LonghurstFord Sierra Cosworth RS500153 laps 0m54.66s0m53.71s1
930Glenn Seton Racing P/LGlenn SetonFord Sierra Cosworth RS500153 laps 0m55.13s0m54.58s10
1023Beaurepaires MotorsportChris LambdenNissan Skyline GTS-R HR-31153 laps 0m57.06s0m56.28s15
116Mobil 1 RacingAndrew MiedeckeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500153 laps 0m55.74s0m55.11s14
1215Toyota Team AustraliaJohn SmithToyota Supra Turbo MA70152 laps 0m56.83s0m56.44s16
1332Lansvale Smash Repairs P/LSteve ReedHolden Commodore VL (HDT)152 laps 0m57.22s0m57.07s18
1411Perkins MotorsportLarry PerkinsHolden Commodore VL (TWR)152 laps 0m55.36s0m54.39s7
1527Foodtown SupermarketsTerry FinniganHolden Commodore VL (TWR)152 laps 0m57.07s0m57.78s21
1645Lester SmerdonLester SmerdonHolden Commodore VL (TWR)151 laps 0m58.84s0m58.76s22
1724Jagparts RacingGerald KayHolden Commodore VL (TWR)149 laps 0m57.40s0m57.12s19
1878Big Toys MotorsportGeoff FullToyota Corolla349 laps 1m00.96s1m01.20s26
1974Alf Grant RacingTim GrantToyota Corolla349 laps 1m01.12s1m00.83s25
20  Mike TwigdenBMW 323i248 laps 1m02.09s1m02.30s27
2171Toyota Team AustraliaJohn FaulknerToyota Corolla344 laps 0m59.76s0m59.08s23
2221Bob Forbes Corporation P/LMark GibbsHolden Commodore VL (TWR)143 laps 0m55.37s0m54.63s11
DNF20Benson & Hedges RacingAlan JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500123 lapsradiator0m55.03s0m53.97s3
DNF13Bob Holden MotorsBob HoldenToyota Corolla31 lap 1m22.14s1m03.50s28
DNF55Playscape RacingKevin WaldockFord Sierra Cosworth RS50010 lapsaccidentNTR0m56.45s17
DNF19Phil Ward Team Monroe AustraliaPhil WardMercedes-Benz 190E-1620 lapsaccident damageNTR0m57.36s20
DNF36 Maurie PickeringHolden Commodore VK10 laps NTR0m59.73s24
EXC9Allan Moffat EnterprisesGregg HansfordFord Sierra Cosworth RS500153 lapsDNC last lap0m55.01s0m54.15s5
DNQ12Valvoline (Aust) P/LRay LintottFord Sierra Cosworth RS5001 practice accident   
DNQ35Glenn Seton Racing P/LDrew PriceFord Sierra Cosworth RS5001 practice accident   
DNP76Bob Holden MotorsPhil CromptonToyota Corolla AE86 Liftback3 engine   

Bob Holden raced the No.76 Toyota Sprinter at Lakeside as his normal car was on the boat to Europe for the Nurburgring 24Hr and Spa 24Hr races.
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That would be Mr Kazuo HIOKI.

So, what was the *big problem* with the original car?
I have since found out that apparently the problem with the GT-R was a broken hub. Apparently.

I'm not mechanically minded in any way, but would a broken hub mean the car couldn't be repaired? It does sound a bit strange that they couldn't repair something like that.
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