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Old 21 May 2017, 11:43 (Ref:3734908)   #126
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It seemed like he just clattered along the fence.
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:49 (Ref:3734917)   #127
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:51 (Ref:3734919)   #128
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Is anybody going to take Frosty seriously actually?

He just whines about everything these days and should consider himself lucky for 2015...
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:52 (Ref:3734921)   #129
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I don't think Rullo did anything too much wrong, he was doing his best to get out of the way given the field was upon him (and knowing all eyes would be on him)

It's one of those occasions where it would be better if he could just drive his line and it's up to the lappers to go around him (as happens in multi-class racing at places like Le Mans or the N24, or the Bathurst 12hr)
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:52 (Ref:3734922)   #130
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:54 (Ref:3734926)   #131
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It's one of those occasions where it would be better if he could just drive his line and it's up to the lappers to go around him (as happens in multi-class racing at places like Le Mans or the N24, or the Bathurst 12hr)
yeah this is and should always be the rule, but as per Frosty's complaint, if you sit on the inside, off the racing line, and the whole field is behind you... Sooner or later you'll be on the racing line.

Always the driver behind's job to get past a lapped car, and circumstances always dictate it will advantage some and disadvantage others, Frosty needs to suck it up.

I think Alex has done a very good job, relatively invisible so far, which for a 16 year old, is pretty solid!
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:57 (Ref:3734929)   #132
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I think Alex has done a very good job, relatively invisible so far, which for a 16 year old, is pretty solid!
Agree completely
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Old 21 May 2017, 11:58 (Ref:3734931)   #133
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Is anybody going to take Frosty seriously actually?

He just whines about everything these days and should consider himself lucky for 2015...
Flashback to his comments about Aaren Russell in 2016 at Barbagello where he said the exact same thing just because Aaren who was faster overtook him. Feel bad for alex look at all the vitriolic bullshit he has to put up with now on social media thanks to one poor comment
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Old 21 May 2017, 12:04 (Ref:3734932)   #134
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I've also been idly wondering how much younger/older Layton Crambrook was when he raced in '99, by comparison to Alex.

Back of the napkin calculations but I believe he would have been about the same age as Alex when he raced?

I was racing HQs in the pits and Layton had raced HQs previously, and my possibly faulty memory was that Layton was only about 16 when he raced?
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Old 21 May 2017, 12:08 (Ref:3734934)   #135
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Born July 30 1981. Raced in 1998. So probably 16 turning 17.
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Old 21 May 2017, 12:14 (Ref:3734935)   #136
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Born July 30 1981. Raced in 1998. So probably 16 turning 17.
He can't be near 16 he'd have to be older than Paul Dumbrell's debut age which was 17 and 74 days

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Old 21 May 2017, 12:24 (Ref:3734938)   #137
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Sorry, you're right, 17 going on 18.
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Old 21 May 2017, 12:30 (Ref:3734942)   #138
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How old was Graham Gulson when he debuted in the 1986 AEC round at Oran Park in the Dulux Alfa?

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I've also been idly wondering how much younger/older Layton Crambrook was when he raced in '99, by comparison to Alex.

Back of the napkin calculations but I believe he would have been about the same age as Alex when he raced?

I was racing HQs in the pits and Layton had raced HQs previously, and my possibly faulty memory was that Layton was only about 16 when he raced?
It was a shame Crambrook's career in V8s didn't kick on from that impressive debut.
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Old 21 May 2017, 12:30 (Ref:3734943)   #139
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Mr Crambrook made his debut in 1999 at Calder on July 23.
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Old 21 May 2017, 13:02 (Ref:3734950)   #140
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Mr Crambrook made his debut in 1999 at Calder on July 23.
The weekend of Lowndes' BIG Calder crash...
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Another huge TCM crash.
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Old 21 May 2017, 21:20 (Ref:3735120)   #142
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So who ever believes Winton is a boring track needs to have a good hard look at themselves in the mirror. The race yesterday was one of the best I have seen in a bloody long time. It was a race won on the track NOT in the pits
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Old 21 May 2017, 23:06 (Ref:3735144)   #143
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Rullo Hits Back

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Old 22 May 2017, 00:18 (Ref:3735150)   #144
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Frosty just got schooled by a 16 year old...
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Don't disagree with Rullo there, Frosty's frustration with his season is shining through a little.
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A good run from Cam Waters.

He should definitely be the focus for PRA moving forward with Bright well beyond his use by date, Frosty not likely to challenge for the championship again and Chas seemingly simply lacking the consistency that we should be seeing from someone with his experience.
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Agreed

I don't think he did a bad job to be honest. Based on his position at the restart maybe they should have pulled him out of the restart firing line.
To be honest in that situation with left and right corners he was always going to hold someone up.

No win situation for him eitherway .
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Bloke makes a mistake. Hardly red mist, more like, and I'll paraphrase Larry here: "Old bloke, cold tyres, f&@ked up".
Agreed.

That's Racing !

Im sure they have all been in similar situations.
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Reckon John Bowe will post again once his rib pain settles down.
I don't recall disagreeing with his take on things before but that TCM crash was just a shame and feel nobody was to blame. Little error at the front of a compressed starting pack of cars and it turned bad. Hate to see it happen too, but I think he let off a bit too much steam there.
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Reckon John Bowe will post again once his rib pain settles down.
I don't recall disagreeing with his take on things before but that TCM crash was just a shame and feel nobody was to blame. Little error at the front of a compressed starting pack of cars and it turned bad. Hate to see it happen too, but I think he let off a bit too much steam there.
Does TCM have a DSO?
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