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18 May 2003, 02:05 (Ref:602276) | #1 | ||
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F*****g #24!!!
Wrecked two cars so far, both cheap moves!
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18 May 2003, 02:41 (Ref:602293) | #2 | ||
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Easy there, if it were anyone but Gordon, you'd be cheering. Nobody ever booed when Earnhardt tagged a guy.
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18 May 2003, 05:31 (Ref:602327) | #3 |
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cause they knew better!
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But Gordon IS cheap!
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18 May 2003, 22:18 (Ref:602958) | #5 | ||
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Geez, a number of races go Dale jr hit everything on the track.
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19 May 2003, 02:03 (Ref:603038) | #6 | ||
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Yeah, I was too lazy to rag on him about that.
I'm not against guys rubbing each other... But Dale was fair about it, Tony's usually fair about it, King Richard, Cale Yarborough, Fireball Roberts... All those guys were pretty fair about it. It's cheap shots like the ones Gordon was taking, just shoving guys out of his way, that I really object to. |
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19 May 2003, 03:21 (Ref:603059) | #7 | ||
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If everyone else is fair about it, what is fair?
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19 May 2003, 04:03 (Ref:603071) | #8 | ||
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I suggest you ask Terry Labonte if he thought it was fair when Dale Earnhardt shoved him out of the way and took the win at Bristol in 1999. He may not say so now, out of respect, but I seem to recall at the time his comment was "He better tighten his belts."
Whenever anyone does that to Gordon, all of you Anti-Gordon types cheer like you won a war. But Gordon does it, and it's all about what a schmuck he is. And you know, it used to make me really mad. But you know what it does now? It makes me laugh. You guys are so jealous, it just cracks me up. You just can't accept what is written in the record books because you don't like what it says. But rather you like it or not, it says Jeff Gordon has the best record of all active drivers. In just over 10 seasons, Gordon has 62 wins, which puts him in the lead among active drivers, and 6th among all drivers in the history of NASCAR. And with 4 Championships, he's in the lead among all active drivers, and 2nd among all drivers in the history of NASCAR. And the best part is... It really irritates you guys, and I think that is absolutely hilarious! Last edited by Tim B; 19 May 2003 at 04:04. |
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19 May 2003, 14:42 (Ref:603598) | #10 | ||
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Best team, best car, huge ego, questionable behavior on and off track... He's the Michael Schumacher of NASCAR.
I don't remember the race in question Tim, so I can't comment. But Gordon _is_ a shmuck, so get's got it coming when someone nails him! I'm much more apt to like a hardass who's honest about it (Stewart, Harvick) than someone who plays Mr. Good Guy, then takes cheap shots at the on-track competition Last edited by Lee Janotta; 19 May 2003 at 14:45. |
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Tied for 1st. Duh.
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So I still say "So what?" if Gordon gets a little aggressive once in awhile. It ain't like he's a crowd of one in that respect. There are a lot of drivers who are far more aggressive than Gordon. But sadly for them, they just don't have Gordon's talent and driving ability. But as far as you not remembering the Bristol '99 race, here's a little read for ya. It is of course, old news. But the story is so typical of NASCAR... Quote:
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20 May 2003, 01:21 (Ref:604151) | #14 | ||
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That article doesn't show me what happened in the wreck, Tim.
And that's not what I was saying at all. Wrecking a guy is _never_ an acceptable way to make a pass. But if you go for the pass and he won't let you by, sometimes you have to beat on him. Likewise if some guy's trying to pass you, you might have to beat on him. That's just racing, and that's the kind of thing Stewart does and Dale did, without apology, that I respect. Gordon spun out two cars Saturday night _just_ to get past, with cheap taps from behind. That's not racing, that's being cheap and lazy in your overtaking. And yeah, the guy's got boatloads of talent, I'm still ****ed no CART team ever picked him up. But talent doesn't excuse cheap moves on the track. |
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20 May 2003, 01:33 (Ref:604155) | #15 | ||
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You can't say you never saw the end of the Bristol race in 1999, it is only one of the most famous confrontations in recent memory.
Terry Labonte spun out with about ten laps to go. I think Darrell Waltrip ran into him. After stopping for new tires during the caution, Labonte restarted at the back of the lead lap. On fresh rubber, Labonte picked through the traffic in a stunning charge to second, behind Earnhardt. Lap 499, Terry passed Dale for the lead. On the final lap, Dale bumped Terry in turn 2 and sent him spinning across the backstretch, taking out Terry and the rest of the lead lap cars except for Spencer, who was as usual too far behind to get caught in the mess. Earnhardt won, Spencer finished second. Dale said afterwards, "I was trying to rattle his cage a little." I can't believe you missed that. |
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Sorry Fish, NASCAR races just all blur together for me, I've seen way too many. Likewise CART. Hell, I can only keep F1 races straight because of the synopses on grandprix.com
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But as usual, I still say I see nothing wrong with ol' Jeffy being as aggressive as anyone else. I'm a firm believer in the "Rubbin' is Racin'" philosophy. But I believe it should apply equally across the board to everyone. If it's fine for one driver, it should be fine for everyone on the track. And in my opinion, it is. The point I've been trying to make is simply this... It's always cheered when someone else does it and sneered when Gordon does it, and as far as I'm concerned, that's whining. And very amusing to watch too. |
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20 May 2003, 13:43 (Ref:604739) | #18 | ||
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It's all in the approach, Tim. The quarter panel's the cheapest shot possible, and Gordon's favorite. After that, the hard bumper shot, especially with a little slide to the right. Easy ways to spin a guy around. That's what I despise. The rest of the car's fair game, as far as I'm concerned, even as far as elbowing a guy right up into the wall.
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Okay, I don't encourage that, _but_ when you're alongside, he's got a chance to come back at you! When you just turn up into his quarter panel, there's not a damn thing he can do.
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Fair enough, I agree with that...
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So he had a bad night & wrecked a few cars. Big deal.
The BEST part of it all- is that those drivers may not be so polite o the track in Jeffies future. For those of you who are aghast of the poster boy running over a few cars---get over it. You MUST have fallen for his perfect image projection. Mr PC became an average driver during the Winston. For all those fans who jumped on Mr Cleans bandwagon for his "clean driving" ability--- better find a new reason for being his fan. For me---(not a fan)---I thought it looked like he was desperit. |
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Hi Rosie...
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Personally I did think the 2nd time was a cheap shot but lets not forget, The Winston is purely for entertainment, not championship standings. |
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