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Old 13 Sep 2007, 09:22 (Ref:2010939)   #26
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Yeah but who available out there is a proven IRL racer who isn't already quite comfy where they are. All the AGR and CG guys are out because they're otherwise engaged. Meira hasn't proven anything yet. I guess Sharp might work but I just can't see it.
Yea but what about some of the proven IPS racers
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Old 13 Sep 2007, 10:27 (Ref:2010996)   #27
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Yea but what about some of the proven IPS racers
They're in a developmental series so I wouldn't classify any of them as "proven" - good racers certainly and I wouldn't take issue with the appointment of either Lloyd or Mutoh with a top line team, but "proven oval racers"?? - nope not in my view.
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Old 27 Sep 2007, 23:31 (Ref:2024745)   #28
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I have it on pretty good authority that Briscoe is as good as signed - if he hasn't already.
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 10:34 (Ref:2025011)   #29
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Domestic thoughts on the loss of Hornish (and Franchitti in the article)

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/h...COL_S1.article

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Penske could replace Hornish with Ryan Briscoe, a Penske driver in the American Le Mans Series. He drove in the IRL for Ganassi in 2005, but finished 19th in the standings and was best known for a massive crash at Chicagoland in which he broke both clavicles. Also, replacing an American with an Australian may not be what the series needs.
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dont know about that, blowfly. He did well for his rookie season, and was competitive with his team mates. the chip car wasnt up to scratch that year. He crashed a bit but he has learnt from that.
"A bit"? He made Andrea de Cesaris look like a porcelain auctioneer. Manning pretty much outpaced him all year.

Then again, Toyota twice put Briscoe in formulae that were way too advanced for him at the appropriate stage in his career. When he stepped down both times he looked a lot better.
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 13:02 (Ref:2025117)   #31
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Briscoe was absolutely crap in 2005. Let's make no bones about it. Couldn't keep the car in one piece, was slower than his teammates etc....not a single positive.

I do hope he does himself justice at Penske. Certainly there is hope as he had a good run at Indy and he has recovered some confidence in other series.
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Old 28 Sep 2007, 23:30 (Ref:2025449)   #32
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Well Briscoe was on his way to win St Pete (I think?) before Kanaan punted him off, so '05 wasn't a total disaster for him. He ran very well at Indy this year too.
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 04:59 (Ref:2026257)   #33
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deejay has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Briscoe was very quick on the road courses in 2005 - although couldn't get to the end of a race.
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 10:57 (Ref:2026654)   #34
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He qualified on the pole for the Sonoma race in 05. He was really good. He just needs to finish races...He's one of my faves. Hope he will have this ride for next year! Go Ryan!
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 13:29 (Ref:2026851)   #35
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The increase in road and street courses will be a big help of course.
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 15:56 (Ref:2027013)   #36
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Briscoe would not be my choice. I think i would prefer to take a punt on an up and coming driver, especially as they have an experienced driver in the team already.
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Old 30 Sep 2007, 16:05 (Ref:2027022)   #37
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has he been the fastest of the penske drivers this year in alms?
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Old 1 Oct 2007, 06:37 (Ref:2027569)   #38
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has he been the fastest of the penske drivers this year in alms?
There is a big diffrence between ALMS and IRL though
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Old 1 Oct 2007, 10:03 (Ref:2027707)   #39
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Yeah, the level of ALMS driver talent on road courses is far above that of the irl.

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Old 2 Oct 2007, 02:24 (Ref:2028491)   #40
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has he been the fastest of the penske drivers this year in alms?
No he has not, he is tied for second in the driver's championship with Sascha Maassen, who shares the #6 Porsche RS Spyder. They are behind the #7 Porsche RS Spyder which is piloted by Romain Dumas and Timo Bernhard. So he is probably the third or fourth regular season driver at Penske.
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Old 2 Oct 2007, 07:22 (Ref:2028590)   #41
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Don't know about that. Sascha is a strong driver, but he has made a mini habit of either giving Ryan quite a bit to do, or slightly undoing Ryan's good work.

The way I've heard Penske talking about him seems to establish him very firmly at the top of the ALMS Penske tree...
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Ryan has given Sascha some work to do at times also to be fair.

Both are rather put in the shade this year by Dumas and Bernhard who are as solid as it gets.

Given time, Ryan could be as good though.
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 08:40 (Ref:2030585)   #43
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So now a Penske Indy car ride goes to second rate sports car driver?

More salt in OW's wound?
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No, he's a reasonable single seater driver who did a detour to be reasonable in ALMS.
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Ryan's one off performance in a "Penske" at Indy was enough for me. He was quality all month and looked good. Far better than last time he was in the series certainly (since he kept it off the walls)
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Old 4 Oct 2007, 23:43 (Ref:2031455)   #46
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When he was at Ganassi, he was simply trying too hard in a dramatically underpowered car. At Indy he had a decent car and made the most of it.

Look at his Formula Renault, Formula Three, and F1 testing results (skip F3000), and you will only see quality.

Getting a podium in a Dreyer and Reinbold car is no mean feat either. He will be a revelation in a Penske...
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Old 5 Oct 2007, 09:52 (Ref:2031767)   #48
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Seems even further away with the departure of Americans from Open Wheel racing
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Ryan's one off performance in a "Penske" at Indy was enough for me. He was quality all month and looked good. Far better than last time he was in the series certainly (since he kept it off the walls)
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Briscoe was quick all month at Indy and was extremley impressive

can't wait to see him get a shot at Penske
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With Hornish's lack of performance so far in Cup, I think the decision that he is leaving IndyCar is now far from assured.
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