IMSA 2022: Looking to the present? - Page 12

Bcarr6 · 12 Jan 2022, 20:16 (Ref:4093483)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Wow not too shabby! I can't wait to see how the GT3 Pro cars interact with the P3's and Am cars on the infield.

Well, GT3 Pro, and Pro Am is nothing new and works just fine in SRO etc. Big question is more how that balance works when you have DPI, P2 and to a lesser extent P3's whizzing past.

61 cars is going to cause a very chaotic race thats for sure, but theres plenty of room at Daytona, so with some common sense driving I hope it can be handled well enough to avoid heavy hits from the yellow!

Speed-King · 12 Jan 2022, 20:27 (Ref:4093486)

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Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

. And yet, all this doesn't even hold a candle to the grid numbers of the 90's and early 2000's, the pit lane must have been total chaos back then, different times for sure.

Reliability was much worse back then, so things tended to become a bit more managable relatively quickly.

canaglia · 12 Jan 2022, 20:36 (Ref:4093488)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Well, GT3 Pro, and Pro Am is nothing new and works just fine in SRO etc. Big question is more how that balance works when you have DPI, P2 and to a lesser extent P3's whizzing past.

61 cars is going to cause a very chaotic race thats for sure, but theres plenty of room at Daytona, so with some common sense driving I hope it can be handled well enough to avoid heavy hits from the yellow!

Agree, I see too many people get hyped for >60 car grid... quantity doesn't mean automatically quality... not a big deal to have 61 cars on grid when half of them are GTD, which only half of them are full season in turn.
At the equation add +8 useless lmp3 that will be moving chicanes for 24 hours, for faster GTD cars as well.
I would prefer much more a smaller grid but with all those dpi lost in the way...

**joeb** · 12 Jan 2022, 21:46 (Ref:4093491)

Already some BOP changes vs last year:

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/i...s-daytona-bop/

Right now both GT classes will use the same BOP, but IMSA could change that if they decide.

canaglia · 12 Jan 2022, 23:01 (Ref:4093503)

Interesting... I was aware that C8R was going to be >1300kg heavy because of engine displacement but that restrictors cut is huge, considering that GTLM and GT3 were already in a comparable range of power. It's not only about loss of top/final power... out of handling reasons, C8R engine was tuned to have a more homogeneous power output delivering less torque than old models configuration... you can tell that by the fact it has a revlimit set to 7400rpm while in C6R and C7R it barely was reaching 6500rpm. Less power, less torque, a bit of less aero, no confidential michelins and more weight... IMSA isn't making things easy for P&M at all.
M4 gt3 turbo pressure range is hilarious... in recent sportscars motorsport I think only 919/TS050 engines and DTM/SGT NRE spec engines were reaching turbo boost close or over 2.5bar... "little" difference is those were bespoke racing designed engines...

Racing Harz · 14 Jan 2022, 08:34 (Ref:4093686)

Philip Ellis and Russell Ward will race the full season in the WINWARD Racing GTD Mercedes-AMG GT3.
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/14/winw...e-imsa-saison/

cbbrit · 14 Jan 2022, 22:31 (Ref:4093790)

What a shame that Audi isn't represented either in GTD PRO and/or GTD. I wonder what has become of the NTE Sport R8 which ran last year?

Nick Woodbury · 15 Jan 2022, 16:19 (Ref:4093864)

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Originally Posted by cbbrit

What a shame that Audi isn't represented either in GTD PRO and/or GTD. I wonder what has become of the NTE Sport R8 which ran last year?

The MPC entry list was released for the Roar, no GT4 Audis there either...a few TCRs though.

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo...tryList_v3.pdf

**joeb** · 15 Jan 2022, 19:02 (Ref:4093884)

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Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

The MPC entry list was released for the Roar, no GT4 Audis there either...a few TCRs though.

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo...tryList_v3.pdf

What is going on with Audi over here? Their GT3 cars have been unpopular, and they pulled out the factory supported LMDh program. Is anybody running a gt3 in world challenge?

stuart thompson · 15 Jan 2022, 19:06 (Ref:4093885)

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Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

The MPC entry list was released for the Roar, no GT4 Audis there either...a few TCRs though.

https://www.imsa.com/wp-content/uplo...tryList_v3.pdf

What’s happened to Bimmerworld in MPC lately, used to be a regular now not seen since last years Daytona?

Speed-King · 15 Jan 2022, 19:42 (Ref:4093894)

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Originally Posted by joeb

What is going on with Audi over here? Their GT3 cars have been unpopular, and they pulled out the factory supported LMDh program. Is anybody running a gt3 in world challenge?

Apparently Audi North America is not particularily interested in/supportive of motorsports. I've been reading stories about the mothership in Germany pushing for more programs in the US only to be blocked by Audi NA who won't fund said programs at least since Audi's pullout from the ALMS.

chernaudi · 15 Jan 2022, 20:00 (Ref:4093897)

Pretty much what's happened since 2008. Audi of America would rather do product placement and stick and ball sponsorships than support motorsports in NA. That's actually what lead to Audi Sport pulling out of the ALMS, due to Audi in Germany wanting Audi NA to provide more funding for the ALMS post 2008.

Nick Woodbury · 15 Jan 2022, 20:31 (Ref:4093899)

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Originally Posted by stuart thompson

What’s happened to Bimmerworld in MPC lately, used to be a regular now not seen since last years Daytona?

After some digging...According to a press release on their website from early 2021, they shifted their focus after Daytona to SRO GT4 America for the remainder of the year.

Looks like much of the same for them in 2022. Contesting Daytona, then committing to the rest of the GT4 America season -> http://www.bimmerworldracing.com/events.html

broadrun96 · 15 Jan 2022, 22:21 (Ref:4093911)

Yup, think some of the drivers like SRO regs better and James goes where he can get the programs funded. They've done both IMSA and SCCA/SRO programs in the past. Sucks not seeing them at the track, he used to park the race hauler by my apartment in Blacksburg and I bought my old Firebird from his roommate.

Nick Woodbury · 16 Jan 2022, 16:09 (Ref:4094008)

https://sportscar365.com/other-serie...26Cfp5FkdvigU8

Looks to be supply chain issues for Audi at the end of the day. Although the article is really about the Dubai 24h, you can definitely draw some merit in concluding that Audi's issues could have influenced the regular IMSA Audi teams like CarBahn and NTE to look elsewhere if the really wanted to upgrade.

"[Chris] Reinke said the German manufacturer’s Evo II package, which completed several test races last year, was not made available to teams in Dubai because Audi did not have enough parts accessible to supply “all customers” worldwide at the same time."

broadrun96 · 17 Jan 2022, 04:40 (Ref:4094094)

Sucks that you would be so hard up for the parts you would have to resort to buying an entire new car. That's either really really limited supply or cya blaming supply issues.

rubberduck · 19 Jan 2022, 06:54 (Ref:4094351)

"All customers worldwide" measured in GT3 R8 is actually a sizeable number.
If the shortage is real I think it's sensible to assume a backmarker AM team or participating in an offseason event at the Gulf would not be on top of the list.

Nick Woodbury · 19 Jan 2022, 17:22 (Ref:4094416)

Liveries revealed for RLL...

canaglia · 19 Jan 2022, 17:27 (Ref:4094417)

#25 looks like a JRM nissan

**FIRE** · 19 Jan 2022, 18:20 (Ref:4094422)

General question:
Why do manufacturer projects often have no or only little manufacturer logo's? I mean these Bimmers have a few Motul logo's but no (big) BMW logo's? I assume BMW USA is the biggest backer of this project.

Pandamasque · 19 Jan 2022, 18:51 (Ref:4094428)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

General question:
Why do manufacturer projects often have no or only little manufacturer logo's? I mean these Bimmers have a few Motul logo's but no (big) BMW logo's? I assume BMW USA is the biggest backer of this project.

Assuming there's also a logo on the right side and on the back that will make it 6 BMW logos plus some M branding.

Some logos work better than others when upscaled all over the livery. BMW – not so much. But they have the signature colours instead.

broadrun96 · 19 Jan 2022, 22:28 (Ref:4094468)

MPC TCR gets smaller, Atlanta Speedworks takes a step back to SCCA and Porsche Club. Looking for a GS return in 2023 according to press release

https://racer.com/2022/01/19/atlanta...s-mpc-program/

GriffM3 · 20 Jan 2022, 14:52 (Ref:4094588)

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Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

Liveries revealed for RLL...

Those liveries look badass! Can't wait to see them live and up close next weekend.

NaBUru38 · 20 Jan 2022, 16:14 (Ref:4094598)

Damn!

broadrun96 · 21 Jan 2022, 20:56 (Ref:4094807)

Vasser Sullivan brought SealMaster over from Indy since they're looking like only maybe a 500 only program this year

https://racer.com/2022/01/21/longtim...-team-in-imsa/

Not much change to the base livery

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