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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:23 (Ref:1350971)   #1
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Raikkonen: qualifying?

Any idea? Will he do his qualifying or is he going to miss it, or what? Does anybody know anything about what the McLaren mechanics are doing at the moment? Is the problem fixed or what?
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:24 (Ref:1350975)   #2
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He had a gearbox problem - there's still a good length of time to either change the gearbox, or swap his engine over to the spare car.

I'm sure he'll qualify as normal.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:24 (Ref:1350976)   #3
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What problem? Here, breath into this brown paper bag...
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:27 (Ref:1350980)   #4
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He stopped on the circuit during practice. Keep up Logrence.

Qualifying starts at 1pm UK time (1.5 hours away) so that's plenty of time to make any neccessary changes, and I gather that the engine itself is fine. Any disadvantage would be a familiarity issue, which should only affect him for a few laps.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:29 (Ref:1350983)   #5
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On Greek TV they said it's final that it's an engine problem and they'll have to change it, but I have no idea where they found the info. And I don't trust them very much
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:29 (Ref:1350984)   #6
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I have no way of keeping up...I'm obviously a lesser human being for it, but please try to see the person beyond my obvious limitations...

But yeah, if the engine's OK then that's good news.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:30 (Ref:1350986)   #7
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"hydraulic failure" = ?
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:34 (Ref:1350990)   #8
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"hydraulic failure" = ?
Not engine related,but covers a multitude of sins.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:35 (Ref:1350991)   #9
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I can't understand where those commentators on Greek TV found info that it's "certainly and finally an engine problem". Has anyone seen anything on any website? Those guys get all their info from websites. And I've seen all I know and all say "gearbox or hydraulic failure"...
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:40 (Ref:1350996)   #10
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www.grandprix.com are saying "engine failure". Oops!
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:43 (Ref:1351000)   #11
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Yep, Kimi will lose 10 places on the grid...

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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:47 (Ref:1351008)   #12
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:49 (Ref:1351013)   #13
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He's got the raw pace, and Silverstone is a circuit where you can overtake - he could still win the race.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:51 (Ref:1351015)   #14
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How many engines has he lost this year, including practise ??? He´s loosing a awful lot of them, isnt he???
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:51 (Ref:1351016)   #15
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The Mclarens are so fast,they could start at the back of the grid and still win quite comfortably.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:52 (Ref:1351019)   #16
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How many engines has he lost this year, including practise ??? He´s loosing a awful lot of them, isnt he???

No.

Magny-Cours was his first engine failure at any race weekend this year.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:53 (Ref:1351020)   #17
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And I've seen all I know and all say "gearbox or hydraulic failure"...
Well the gearbox failed when the number four conrod burst through the block and took out the hydraulic feed to the gearchange mechanism.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:58 (Ref:1351025)   #18
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Shame, being robbed once again of a straight on track scrap due to interfering regulations.
For the record im actually rooting for Alonso, I really want him to win it this year, but i'd like to see him have to scrap for it.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 11:13 (Ref:1351032)   #19
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I'd second that...but I'd want Kimi to win
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 11:16 (Ref:1351034)   #20
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Well the gearbox failed when the number four conrod burst through the block and took out the hydraulic feed to the gearchange mechanism.
Mclaren really ought to be more careful where they put things.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 12:30 (Ref:1351077)   #21
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I believe and hope that if things turn out in favor of McLaren (just A BIT for a change!!!! ) Kimi could even win, or at least be comfortably in front of Alonso. If JPM also "helps", with a good qualy and good race. Still it's very very sad.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 12:41 (Ref:1351081)   #22
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One day soon the ducks will all aline and Kimi's luck will change and no one is going to see which way he went.

He must cry himself to sleep over the events of the last couple of years
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 12:44 (Ref:1351085)   #23
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Yeah, I don't know, I'd kill a few people and then myself if I were him. He has been robbed of one and a half world titles by his team
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 13:07 (Ref:1351106)   #24
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Shame, being robbed once again of a straight on track scrap due to interfering regulations.
For the record im actually rooting for Alonso, I really want him to win it this year, but i'd like to see him have to scrap for it.
Why? Are the regulations somehow different for McLaren? If the engine failed at 9/10ths distance would we complain about the "regulations" making the race too long and robbing us?

If anything he has been "lucky" the failures weren't during the races ...
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 13:08 (Ref:1351108)   #25
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By Mercedes, rather than by his team.

But anyway.

He can still win this race.
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