Good job Frentzen!

[1000HP]

Michelin tyres proved to be very un-competitive as even Frentzen's Arrows was able to catch up Ralph's Williams... If only his arrow stayed alive!

[enemy-ace]

Frentzen has always been good in the wet. Even with alot less HP those Bridgestones really helped him harass Ralf. When interviewed after his engine blew, he said Ralf was easy meat.

[Kex]

Frentzen's still a great driver.

Also you'd think that the Cosworth engine (if it did indeed blow) would be reliable, if you paid good money for it. Poor Arrows.

[OVERSTEER]

My conspiracy theory is that Lauda is supplying dodgy engines to Arrows so that Jaguar don't look as stupid as they really are!
We need Arrows to survive, because we need a team to prove that Jaguar's problem is their chassis, and not there engine.
Imagine a pairing of Irvine and Frentzen in the Arrows, that would be something!

[Speedworx]

Arrows will probably survive and will beat Jaguar on points

[paulzinho]

Bernoldi was also running strongly, had he survived he was certainly in with a good chance of points.

Great drive by Frentzen, such a shame his engine went when it did though, classic stuff!

[BootsOntheSide]

Yeah after everything Arrows and especially Frentzen really amde the best of a good situation in terms of the tyres,a dn deserved points. New chassis parts or old Jaguar still can't hold a candle to them.

[steve nielsen]

Frentzen lost 3 places at the start and was 4 places behind Bernoldi after lap 1(who started 2 places behind him), but the team decided to give HHF the advantage on the pitstop.

[BootsOntheSide]

Another Steve Nielsen conspiracy theory. Face it, Jos was outqualified 10-7, Frentzen has outqualified Bernoldi 9-1 and got twice as many points

[steve nielsen]

Jos always managed to stay ahead of Bernoldi at the start and managed to score an average of 4 places won on lap 1,Frentzen so far has LOST an average of 2 places on lap 1, Jos also got the only pount for Arrows last year, HHF might have scored 2, but his engine has at least 50 BHP more.

[NiceGuyEddie]

HHF might have scored 2, but his engine has at least 50 BHP more.

I knew quit a few more engines who have a lot more BHP than in 2001

Its a fact that Jos got outqualified by Enrique Bernoldi far more than to call it coincidence. Your song is getting old Steve (but i see youre from Holland, so i cant really blame you)

Arrows took a chance with Frentzen, and it paid of. Well, at least until Lauda thought enough was enough

[steve nielsen]

the 2001 Asiatech only had 770 BHP(said by Jos last year), the Cosworth has at least 825(although Cosworth said 840), NO other team has gained so much in power than Arrows have.

and (like you can see with Montoya) you don't win races in qualifying, HHF was outclassed by Bernoldi at almost every start this year(Just like Jos did with Bernoldi last year)

[NiceGuyEddie]

and (like you can see with Montoya) you don't win races in qualifying,

and (like you can see with Jos) you don't win races at the start



He is NOT in F1 for a reason, and when it was a bad reason, a team would have taken up an option on him by now, but no team has.

How long did it take Salo and Delarosa to land other seats when they were sacked at the last moment?

[Mr V]

Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
Another Steve Nielsen conspiracy theory.

we could always talk another conspiricy.........that Arrows light fueled Jos much more than they did Enrique, thus the better starts by the Dutchman!

[steve nielsen]

No one has been replaced so far, that was'nt the case in 99 and 2001, Jos would be nr1 on the list if a driver would be injured.

and he's not in F1 currently because:

A: Tom Walkinshaw does'nt respect contracts
B: TW fired him 3 weeks before the season when there where no seats available(Paul Stoddart said a few times he was waiting for the Arrows situation because he wanted to sign Jos or HHF, but he could'nt wait anymore)

[steve nielsen]

Originally posted by mr v




we could always talk another conspiricy.........that Arrows light fueled Jos much more than they did Enrique, thus the better starts by the Dutchman!

at Hockenheim Jos had a heavier fuelload than Enrique(and was asked if he would let him pass), but Jos was 3 places ahead of Bernoldi at the start.

[NiceGuyEddie]

TW fired him 3 weeks before the season when there where no seats available(Paul Stoddart said a few times he was waiting for the Arrows situation because he wanted to sign Jos or HHF, but he could'nt wait anymore)

Salo was sacked days before the first GP. He got to stand in for Zonta and M. Schumacher (and got the Sauberseat as a result). Verstappen was also available for that Ferrari seat, but Ferrari never contacted him (or so he himself stated).

Delarosa was also sacked weeks before when every other team was filled as well. First Prost took him away from Minardi, then Jaguar took him away from Prost. Jaguar was at the time riding with Burti and Irvine, but they took Delarosa on and later traded Burti to Prost, to avoid court-action.

Moral: When a team wants a driver who in fact is available, they will get him.
Other Moral: When an available driver still doesnt land a drive, he is not wanted.

[NiceGuyEddie]

Stoddart said a few times he was waiting for the Arrows situation because he wanted to sign Jos or HHF, but he could'nt wait anymore)

Why couldnt he wait? He could easily take on Jos three weeks before the start of the season. Takagi was taken on days before the first GP by Arrows.

Perhaps the real story is that Webber landed the Fosters-deal, and was able to pay for the drive. In that case Stoddard gets the money and the talent. Who needs Jos in that scenario?

[steve nielsen]

Jos still had a contract as a Honda testdriver in 99(so he was'nt available, but was asked to test(and race for the 2 following years) for Honda instead of Salo), Sato never raced in 99(Zonta was the BAR driver), PDLR NEVER was at Minardi .

So:If you can't get these simple facts straight how can you pass judgement on Jos?

[NiceGuyEddie]

Jos still had a contract as a Honda testdriver in 99(so he was'nt available, but was asked to test(and race for the 2 following years)

Salo had the same contract, but didnt get to drive because the project was dropped before he was scheduled. Ferrari could have asked for Jos, and Honda wouldve let him (they let Salo). Jos himself stated that he was available but never contacted. He didnt feel it right to contact Ferrari himself, and he was right.

PDLR NEVER was at Minardi

Yes he was. He never drove a mile though.

[NiceGuyEddie]

So:If you can't get these simple facts straight how can you pass judgement on Jos?

Just like every other teamboss who isnt considering him for 2003 and beyond.

[steve nielsen]

Salo NEVER had a contract with Honda(although it was rumoured thay wanted him to join Jos)

and Pedro NEVER had a contract with Minardi, after Arrows he only tested for Prost before Jag hired him, but Minardi?, never!(MF where are you??)

[The Accomplice]

Face up to it Steve, HHF is getting Arrows and their sponsors better coverage than Jos ever did and he's getting further up the field in the races. If anyone had to chose between HHF and Jos they will go for HHF because he is a GP winner. That's what TW did and you can't blame him although the way it was done was out of order.

I don't think you should be to critical and hold a grudge against HHF. Its not his fault and he is only doing his job.

[DNQ]

That was very impressive from Heinz - he's still got what it takes. Its a great shame to see him in that Arrows, when it's quite obvious he'd be able to cut the mustard in any of the teams higher up.

[Mania]

Nice to see steve is still around

Heinz drove well but Bernoldi did as good a job in my eyes, he should have finished in the points but for a pit stop blunder.