BTCC/Motorsport post lockdown

[kipper]

Originally Posted by antnee

For the marshals on here, have the circuits/organisers said anything yet about provisions to keep you guys safe?

No (although I do know that various people are evaluating ideas as to how things might work).

[bella]

https://www.autosport.com/national/n...en-for-testing

testing is now officially a thing again

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by bella

https://www.autosport.com/national/n...en-for-testing

testing is now officially a thing again

Next week for exclusive testing and the following week for general testing and track days:

http://news.brandshatch.co.uk/covid-...nt-update.aspx

[Pdh]

So with the British gp, btcc and British gts all racing on the same weekend I wonder if that could affect marshal levels at the events

[mark_l]

Will most of the BTCC/BGT senior officials be at Silverstone on 1/2 August?

[andy97]

Originally Posted by mark_l

Will most of the BTCC/BGT senior officials be at Silverstone on 1/2 August?

Should have F1, BTCC and BGT all at Silverstone on the same weekends.

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by andy97

Should have F1, BTCC and BGT all at Silverstone on the same weekends.

BTCC and British GT won't pay F1 for the rights to appear on the package. Those days ended in the 1990's.

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by andy97

Should have F1, BTCC and BGT all at Silverstone on the same weekends.

What sense would there be to do that especially if it’s behind closed doors

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Pdh

What sense would there be to do that especially if it’s behind closed doors

Er, to get all the marshals, medical and operating staff in one place, rather than three.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by mark_l

BTCC and British GT won't pay F1 for the rights to appear on the package. Those days ended in the 1990's.

But circumstances have changed massively. And if there are not enough marshals, officials and medical staff to go round for 3 major championship meetings in the same weekend, at 3 different venues, some sacred cows cows have to sacrificed, or one or other event may be in danger of not happening.

It’s time for co-operation and collaboration in the best interests of the whole sport.

[S griffin]

It’s a nice idea, but I feel they would be hard pressed to make it happen. Especially with F1 having F2 and F3 already on it’s support package and having plenty of other races round the world to consider

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by andy97

But circumstances have changed massively. And if there are not enough marshals, officials and medical staff to go round for 3 major championship meetings in the same weekend, at 3 different venues, some sacred cows cows have to sacrificed, or one or other event may be in danger of not happening.

It’s time for co-operation and collaboration in the best interests of the whole sport.

F1 only cares about F1, everything else is in its eyes inferior.

[kipper]

Originally Posted by mark_l

F1 only cares about F1, everything else is in its eyes inferior.

That might possibly be the case, however, I suspect that the likes of the BTCC might see racing at 7.30am on the Saturday morning of a GP weekend as being 'beneath' them.

[mark_l]

I can't see many marshals who are employed full time, being able to get 2 Fridays off from work in following weekends to attend the GP's, especially if they have just come off furlough and work is busy.

I think BGT and BTCC on 1/2 August are dead in the water as events, during normal times very little motorsport takes place the weekend of the BGP.

[touringlegend]

The meetings will be behind closed doors. So whilst a lot of staff will be temps at the BGP events perhaps as they won’t be needed for public use they will end up paying these staff to be marshals..

[antnee]

How many marshals are needed for the big events vs normal club events?

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by touringlegend

The meetings will be behind closed doors. So whilst a lot of staff will be temps at the BGP events perhaps as they won’t be needed for public use they will end up paying these staff to be marshals..

You can't just take a bunch of programme sellers and expect them to act as marshals.

[bella]

i don't think many drivers would want programme sellers or parking attendants to come to their rescue if they needed their assistance too unless they completed all the training, that is.

makes me wonder if they encourage race makers to consider marshalling at silverstone?

[Greem]

Originally Posted by bella

i don't think many drivers would want programme sellers or parking attendants to come to their rescue if they needed their assistance too unless they completed all the training, that is.

makes me wonder if they encourage race makers to consider marshalling at silverstone?

There are a few people I know of who are both racemakers and marshals, but not many, and most of them are marshals first.

The pink shirt brigade see the same stuff about marshalling as everyone else and I understand some have attended taster days (not just at Silverstone) but I'm yet to meet anyone who's made the jump. That's not saying there aren't any, I just don't know of any!

Your first observation is obviously the right one

[The Fat Clerk]

I for one would be happy to help out.
When I stopped racing I went through the marshalling grades and onto being a Driving Standards Observer (BGP 1999) Clerk & then a Steward.
I know I'm not the only one in this position.

[bella]

motorsport uk could do with running a "left marshalling and want to return?" campaign couldn't they?

didn't think it was going to be too big a problem initially but now they've scheduled the british gps it looks like someone's going to come up short somewhere. hmm.

[3marinadrive]

Originally Posted by Greem

There are a few people I know of who are both racemakers and marshals, but not many, and most of them are marshals first.

The pink shirt brigade see the same stuff about marshalling as everyone else and I understand some have attended taster days (not just at Silverstone) but I'm yet to meet anyone who's made the jump. That's not saying there aren't any, I just don't know of any!

Your first observation is obviously the right one

Serious question to experienced Marshals; There have been drivers who have marshalled alongside experienced crews in order to either gain knowledge and experience of the work that Marshals do, or in some cases to gain a licence signature in order to help get them an upgrade.

In the case of the 1/2 August weekend where it's clearly going to be tough to get the right balance of quality and quantity, would the Marshals WANT support from drivers who are not racing at present on these events if it helped out? If so, would there be mileage in going via Motorsport UK to appeal to drivers to support Marshals at these (and other) events?

[deley]

Originally Posted by 3marinadrive

Serious question to experienced Marshals; There have been drivers who have marshalled alongside experienced crews in order to either gain knowledge and experience of the work that Marshals do, or in some cases to gain a licence signature in order to help get them an upgrade.

In the case of the 1/2 August weekend where it's clearly going to be tough to get the right balance of quality and quantity, would the Marshals WANT support from drivers who are not racing at present on these events if it helped out? If so, would there be mileage in going via Motorsport UK to appeal to drivers to support Marshals at these (and other) events?

Nice to have the offer but until such time as we know when events are confirmed as running (not provisional wishlist), how they are going to be run (as approved by Government, Motorsport UK, Clubs and Circuits), what sort of numbers of marshals are needed and how many marshals volunteer then no one has any idea as to what, if any, shortfall there might be in marshal numbers.

[Alfisti]

Forgive me here, but Marshalls are an army of trained unpaid professionals. The average employee on a circuits payroll won't have the necessary skills to perform the task; it's not just waving flags at random and brushing gravel off the track!

[peebee2]

[IRONY] Surely with no burgers to flip the kitchen staff could flag? [/IRONY]