Ralf Criticises His Team

Led ZeppF1 · 1 Oct 2003, 07:29 (Ref:736294)

Ralf Schumacher was critised his team to
his retirement on lap 22 in the US GP.

He expressed his isappointed in the press release and os own web site.

"For two laps I tried to understand what they were telling me on the radio, what was the weather forecast, if I had to go back to the pits to put rain tyres. But I had nothing, no information from my team."

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.h...01024330.shtml

Led ZeppF1 · 1 Oct 2003, 07:40 (Ref:736298)

Ralf Schumacher was obviously disappointed, but I think its improperly to express his critism publicly.

At least, Mario Theissen think such criticism is not justified.

ASCII Man · 1 Oct 2003, 07:46 (Ref:736303)

Bye bye, Ralf?

jonathanc · 1 Oct 2003, 07:55 (Ref:736306)

I agree he should go, but why has there been all this talk about him extending his contract? I assume BMW want him to stay and are willing to pay for it. If he goes to another team his pay will be significantly cut IMO.

climb · 1 Oct 2003, 08:28 (Ref:736329)

What made me a little sad is that a reply was given by Mario Theissen, and not by old Frank; it seems a sign that, if not formally, Williams has actually been taken over by BMW

f1manoz · 1 Oct 2003, 08:38 (Ref:736341)

Well, Ralf does have a right to vent. If it's the teams fault that he went out, then he does have a reason to be peeved.

But whether such things should be done publicly are a matter of opinion.

Led ZeppF1 · 1 Oct 2003, 08:41 (Ref:736345)

Quote:

Originally posted by jonathanc
I agree he should go, but why has there been all this talk about him extending his contract? I assume BMW want him to stay and are willing to pay for it. If he goes to another team his pay will be significantly cut IMO.

If stay in William his salary will be significanly cut, to.

DriverT · 1 Oct 2003, 09:03 (Ref:736358)

Well, seeing as Ralf is paid MILLIONS of Dollars to drive for Williams, shouldn't he be the expert and announce to the team that HE is making the decision to come in for wet tyres? For God's sake, he isn't 8 years old any more, he should know (with his years of racing experience) what the weather will do and HOW TO DRIVE. The buck stops with him and criticising his team when he spun off is a bit rich IMHO.

corkholio · 1 Oct 2003, 09:43 (Ref:736405)

Quote:

Originally posted by DriverT
The buck stops with him and criticising his team when he spun off is a bit rich IMHO.

Except when it's BAR handing out the bucks.

**Peter Mallett** · 1 Oct 2003, 10:17 (Ref:736443)

Lot of fuss about nothing IMO. The only reason we hear about it is because of media access. He's entitled to his opinion and so is Team Willy. They've said nothing so far so I'm sure its not something they didn't know about.

DriverT · 1 Oct 2003, 10:28 (Ref:736458)

Quote:

Originally posted by corkholio
Except when it's BAR handing out the bucks.

Hahaha.

ralf fan · 1 Oct 2003, 10:45 (Ref:736481)

Well 2 contrasting stories!! Ralf say that th team didnt provide him with any data and an offer to come in and Theissen says they had communicated and waited for Ralf's answer!! So wo to beleive? :confused:

Mark Webber · 1 Oct 2003, 11:36 (Ref:736539)

I think is great! time for frank to feel what it is like to be *****ed about in public . GO RALF!

Mr V · 1 Oct 2003, 21:23 (Ref:737195)

Don't think that Sir frank will lose any sleep over it

DriverT · 1 Oct 2003, 23:49 (Ref:737281)

I think maybe he's a bit more concerned with losing the WDC...

Ralf · 2 Oct 2003, 00:13 (Ref:737293)

Yeah stick it them Ralf!

He was obviously staying on slicks to see how long he could last to help Monty's strategy.

Meanwhile Wacky Juan falls asleep at the start, then thinks he's in a smash up derby & ballses up the race completely.

Led ZeppF1 · 2 Oct 2003, 02:22 (Ref:737376)

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Mallett
Lot of fuss about nothing IMO. The only reason we hear about it is because of media access.

Ralf expressed hard critism on his own web site. So, Ralf obviously want public to know.

GTV27 · 2 Oct 2003, 02:37 (Ref:737382)

if Ralf doesn't like his team he could always do us all a favour and just leave.

Led ZeppF1 · 2 Oct 2003, 02:51 (Ref:737391)

And, JPM obviously disappointed, more disappointed than Ralf, but he wasn't expressed his critism to teams publicly.

Mark Webber · 2 Oct 2003, 03:11 (Ref:737399)

JPM can not complain he stuffed up

GTV27 · 2 Oct 2003, 03:22 (Ref:737407)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Webber
JPM can not complain he stuffed up

that's a bit harsh - to me it looked closer to a racing incident than a deliberate nudge. I suppose either way it is a stuff up - but he is paid to take those sorts of risks

I think more to the point is that Ralf shouldn't complain - even if he was being used as a guinea pig for Montoya, so what - welcome to team sport sonny jim, if you don't like working for your teammate every now and again, you need to get yourself a contract like big bro

Led ZeppF1 · 2 Oct 2003, 06:11 (Ref:737507)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Webber
JPM can not complain he stuffed up

If you don't like JPM is your own problem, but please don't make a harsh statement.

Ralf's complaint is right in a way. But the mistake of going off was Ralf's fault. Not just Ralf who staying on slicks for 1 lap on wet, JPM had to do it for almost three laps because he must served the drive through penalty.

It has been discuss before (http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=44529), why the team wouldn't to stop and change tyres and then order JPM to do his drive through next lap?

DriverT · 2 Oct 2003, 06:26 (Ref:737528)

Quote:

Originally posted by GTV27
welcome to team sport sonny jim, if you don't like working for your teammate every now and again, you need to get yourself a contract like big bro

Yep, he is paid to tow the party line, but he must be pretty ****ed off by now if what he says is true. Hmmm...

Mattracer · 3 Oct 2003, 12:39 (Ref:739268)

I liked the bit where he claimed that full-wets would be the way to go if he had still been in the race as JPM was at that time?

944x19 · 9 Oct 2003, 18:13 (Ref:745551)

RS has to stay with Williams in order to have a car fast enough to cover Mikey's backdoor.

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