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Old 10 Feb 2004, 09:25 (Ref:869200)   #1
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What points system in 04????

I havn't heard or read anything about the points system for this year?

With the much debated system used in 03, one would assume things will be revised for this year...

Can anyone provide any info?

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Old 10 Feb 2004, 10:06 (Ref:869229)   #2
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No doubt AVESCO will think up a system even more complicated & have everyone totally confused two races in to the season.

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Old 13 Feb 2004, 10:07 (Ref:872916)   #3
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Hi All

The 2004 points system is now on the AVESCO website (in section D of the regulations).

There is no dropping of worst round (YAY ), but the points seem the same as last year (192 max per round).

Also, the format for the Main event has changed (in Section A), no full field shootout(back to top 10), and 3 races over the weekend (1x100km Sat, and 2x150km Sun).

The qualifying mark is still 105% except for endurance rounds where it is 107%.

Also, looks like all 35 cars can come to Pukekohe this year.

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Old 13 Feb 2004, 15:51 (Ref:873272)   #4
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 21:25 (Ref:873599)   #5
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I think I'll just let the CHannel 10 Commentary team (whoever that will comprise) explain it as we go...
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 21:37 (Ref:873606)   #6
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Its **** anyway
Top 15 cars should score points and the rest should strive to get there.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 21:45 (Ref:873610)   #7
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That's what i reckon. The CART point system would be a good start.
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Old 13 Feb 2004, 23:27 (Ref:873681)   #8
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Still doesn't reward someone for having a go though. It's killing the good racing..

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Old 14 Feb 2004, 03:00 (Ref:873798)   #9
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Having a go is what the whole field is doing, so you have no arguement there, if you think that position 32 is not having a go your watching different races than me.
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Old 14 Feb 2004, 11:48 (Ref:874061)   #10
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COuple of things come out of this.

Any point score that doesn't have a reasonable margin between positions will start to produce monotonous racing - because there is no incentive to pass.

Second - Section 1.1.4.1 - has only recently been changed - so much for AVESCO claiming they have been tied in for some time to using only a CAMS licenced track:

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1.1.4.1 motor racing circuit that holds a current CAMS Track Licence;
The final 7 words have been added this year...
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Old 14 Feb 2004, 12:11 (Ref:874077)   #11
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i think they should just give points to the top ten.

1st - 20points
2nd - 15points
3rd - 10points
4th - 8points
5th - 6points
6th - 5points
7th - 4points
8th - 3points
9th - 2points
10th- 1point

pole position in shootout = 4 points

now that would make the races and shootouts exciting
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Old 14 Feb 2004, 14:10 (Ref:874135)   #12
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No more than they are now. Technical or rule changes only will bring better racing.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 00:31 (Ref:874445)   #13
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How about
100 first
80 second
60 third
40 fourth
30 fifth
25 sixth
24 seventh
23 eigth
etc
etc
At least the top six would have a major insentive.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 01:53 (Ref:874485)   #14
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Of all the point scoring systems in use around the world I believe the IRL have got the best. IE incentive to pass at the pointy end + Incentive to fight for points down the field
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 01:58 (Ref:874487)   #15
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I always wonder why all championships dont run on some sort of standardised points system.....wouldnt it make it easier on us fans, and give everyone a more understandable comparison between drivers?
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 03:17 (Ref:874504)   #16
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I have NEVER been in favour of any point scoring system that gives points for passing, leading etc - they are the hardest systems to keep track of and at the end of a race meeting, unless everything is absolutely spot on, leads to confusion.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 04:48 (Ref:874536)   #17
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i think they should just give points to the top ten.

1st - 20points
2nd - 15points
3rd - 10points
4th - 8points
5th - 6points
6th - 5points
7th - 4points
8th - 3points
9th - 2points
10th- 1point

pole position in shootout = 4 points

now that would make the races and shootouts exciting
YES...

This will do me, too
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 05:15 (Ref:874544)   #18
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This will do me, too
I always thought rewarding pole was a good idea, but are there any drawbacks to this - racetime/anyone?
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 05:19 (Ref:874548)   #19
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I agreed with the points system mainly, although I think 2 points (or 1) is more appropriate for pole.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 07:07 (Ref:874568)   #20
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i think they should just give points to the top ten.

1st - 20points
2nd - 15points
3rd - 10points
4th - 8points
5th - 6points
6th - 5points
7th - 4points
8th - 3points
9th - 2points
10th- 1point

pole position in shootout = 4 points

now that would make the races and shootouts exciting

The downside to this system is that it gives no reason to race outside the top ten whereas the IRL formula encourages sqabbling the whole way down the field
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 07:15 (Ref:874573)   #21
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[BThe downside to this system is that it gives no reason to race outside the top ten whereas the IRL formula encourages sqabbling the whole way down the field [/B]
I'd humbly suggest that any driver not prepared to "squabble" to get into the top 10 does'nt deserve a seat in motorsport.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 07:21 (Ref:874575)   #22
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Perhaps save the tyres might be more appropriate
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 07:22 (Ref:874577)   #23
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You can suggest that, but if the point spread is such that the difference between say, 11th and 10th is only 1 or 2 points, then quite often (and this is what currently happens) a driver will take it easy on the car and not risk damage or being punted out.
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Old 15 Feb 2004, 07:34 (Ref:874584)   #24
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Keep the current system in place, they got rid of the stupid drop rouund scenario, so even #10 can work out who is where in the points.

In the end, the best team with the highest championship position in outright and worst-round-dropped won 2003. This means the organisers were lucky
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Give one point for a win and that is it.
Let the driver with the most wins get the championship.

Then we would see some passing!
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