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Old 18 Feb 2020, 17:52 (Ref:3958305)   #121
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Ironic if the hypercar rules came about because of Aston wanting to run a road car and then Aston pulls out before it even begins.
It looks that way. Who else really asked to run their road hypercar? I know many were saying to combine the rules between imsa and wec but who said "lets run a road car"? I can see stylized prototypes but only Aston Martin was a taker or pusher for using something like the Valkyrie. McLaren was just a rumor and they're the only other party I can recall being in the news about a hypercar.
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Old 18 Feb 2020, 18:41 (Ref:3958313)   #122
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I think the ACO saying dpi 2.0 can race is the reason.
I'd suggest it's a convenient excuse rather than a legitimate reason.

I never believed there would be a Valkyrie at Silverstone in September. Aston Martin has been a basket case for a while and the WEC project was just another flight of fancy by a blowhard CEO who hasn't delivered on any of his wild promises.

The ACO has disgraced themselves with the Hypercar saga, prostrating themselves at the feet of manufacturers while neglecting a potentially strong privateer field and GTE, the one class where manufacturers do want to play.
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Old 18 Feb 2020, 19:14 (Ref:3958320)   #123
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I'd suggest it's a convenient excuse rather than a legitimate reason.

I never believed there would be a Valkyrie at Silverstone in September. Aston Martin has been a basket case for a while and the WEC project was just another flight of fancy by a blowhard CEO who hasn't delivered on any of his wild promises.

The ACO has disgraced themselves with the Hypercar saga, prostrating themselves at the feet of manufacturers while neglecting a potentially strong privateer field and GTE, the one class where manufacturers do want to play.
Not that many. You have really 2 fully committed and 2 playing in their local sandbox. And a yacht racing club. You have as many committed to the Hypercar ranks so it's not like they are tearing down the doors to get in to GTE either.
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Old 18 Feb 2020, 20:38 (Ref:3958333)   #124
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You have as many committed to the Hypercar ranks so it's not like they are tearing down the doors to get in to GTE either.
That's after several years when ACO have made it perfectly clear that all they really cared about was LMP1.

GTE makes sense because it is a showcase for the one type of motor racing which manufacturers are fully committed to: selling GT3s to customers.

Go back to 2017, let Toyota have their solo Le Mans win then announce that GTE would be the World Championship class and LMP would become privateer pro (LMP1) and pro-am (LMP2). I reckon you could add 2-3 more GTE makes right away.

But we've been over this and I'm just repeating myself. Aston in Hypercar always looked like a fantasy given the state of the company. ACO bought it because they were pathetically desperate to get manufacturers in LMP1 despite it being perfectly clear that major car makers are no longer interested in factory prototype programmes.
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At the end of the day, I really canít believe Andy Palmer has failed to deliver on a wild promise. Who saw that coming?
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Old 19 Feb 2020, 09:37 (Ref:3958452)   #126
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At the end of the day, I really canít believe Andy Palmer has failed to deliver on a wild promise. Who saw that coming?
Heís like a cross between Dany Bahar and Cyril Abitofbull.
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Old 19 Feb 2020, 11:37 (Ref:3958478)   #127
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This is a really huge mess now.
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As i said to someone, its like one ACO dept was deciding on Hypercar rules, while down the corridor another dept was working on a deal with IMSA to scupper them.
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Old 19 Feb 2020, 12:09 (Ref:3958485)   #129
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Current conditions at the ACO offices

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Old 19 Feb 2020, 14:00 (Ref:3958505)   #130
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At the end of the day, I really canít believe Andy Palmer has failed to deliver on a wild promise. Who saw that coming?
The disappointment is that neither this specifically, nor hypercar more generally, do anything for the reputation of motorsport more generally. Regarding the gentleman in question, one wonders how long he will be in his current position.
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Old 19 Feb 2020, 14:17 (Ref:3958510)   #131
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@broadrun96 ...and there it is, folks.
We all knew that when the first announcement of the alignment between LMP1 & DPi rules that, eventually, Hypercars would be the odd-man out, even as they tried to include them. Cost & useability issues were going to push more manufacturers towards LMDh, where it's just powertrain that would determine the side-by-side comparisons.

The chassis manufacturers would hold the cards, not only with the first four but with others coming soon after, expanding the overall line of choice.
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https://www.fiawec.com/en/news/state...programme/6637

Statement in response to Aston Martin release on Valkyrie race programme

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In the meantime, the strategy concerning Le Mans Hypercar and LMDh remains unchanged.

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ďTo run at the 24 Hours of Le Mans and in the FIA World Endurance Championship, at this level of technology and budget, is an undeniable opportunity for a manufacturer to demonstrate its competitiveness. This covers a whole range of fields: technical, efficiency, improved fuel consumption, sustainable mobility. The ACO/IMSA convergence does not impact this category, and the next elements on the technical details of that common platform, to be given at Sebring in mid-March, will confirm that."

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Sounds like Aston has not won many friends here.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...ercar-not-dpi/
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Sounds like Aston has not won many friends here.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...ercar-not-dpi/
I think saying that is the usual Dagys over-the-top. First and foremost, only 2 cars were reasonably assured and only 1 has appeared. Think we're all willing to give Toyota a bit of room to produce their car in the flesh. Second, DPi 2.0 hasn't been nailed down yet and the "balanced" LMDh/LMH rules package hasn't even been announced. So to say one has destroyed the other is a bit OTT. Hypercar could have delayed the global 'DPi 2.0 styled" rules package but the older LMP1s would be allowed to run 20-21 under the previous rules so they can still run and gives LMDh a chance to build before 21-22 rules package and would have 2020 and 2021 LM24 before they had to be on track.
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