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Old 26 Mar 2003, 21:14 (Ref:549327)   #1
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Outrage!

Taurus Lola reserve only, only one (Intersport) MG, no Freisinger Porsche, no Morgan??

There is a T2M 911, however, and two TreVoRs.
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Old 26 Mar 2003, 21:28 (Ref:549341)   #2
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Mr. Anderson must be on some ACO black list...
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Old 26 Mar 2003, 21:33 (Ref:549349)   #3
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kdr should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridkdr should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
someones bound to drop out...i think you'll see the taurus lola in june.
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Old 26 Mar 2003, 21:36 (Ref:549356)   #4
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i certainly hope Taurus gets in. They did an incredibly admirable job with the Lola at Sebring, especially when you consider the short time frame in which they assembled a team. They showed respectable pace for that chassis too.
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Old 26 Mar 2003, 21:37 (Ref:549358)   #5
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I don't miss the Morgan, though...I disageed with its invitation last year since the 2001 pole sitter (the Callaway C-12R) did not get one.
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Old 26 Mar 2003, 22:30 (Ref:549425)   #6
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I think the ACO are being themselves. One reason that I as a sports car fan have never been took taken with the event is the silly entry list. Two WR cars got in last year while an MG was on the original reserve. The Callaway didn't get an entry despite winning the pole and leading the previous year, but didn't get an entry while the Morgan and the restricted Sypker did.

Taurus doesn't get one this year but French teams with old equipment do. Everyone wants to talk about Le Mans, but insane debacles like this take away from the event far too much for myself. Anyone with a brain can see the ACO is politically motivated to the extreme and that their Le Mans is littered with their buddies.
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Old 27 Mar 2003, 06:50 (Ref:549663)   #7
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I think you're being harsh on the Morgan there. True it might have beena "politically motivated entry", but lets not forget that it out-qualified a Porsche and two Ferrari's. Then again GT3 has always been a bit of a Porkers owners club class.....maybe they don't want anything else winning the class.
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Old 27 Mar 2003, 08:45 (Ref:549728)   #8
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Thats the impression I get. No BMW, or Callaway, proven Porsche contenders and in some cases, beaters.

How will they handle the Ferrari challenge? Maybe outlawing semi auto gearboxes or something. All I know is that there were rumors at the time that the Callaway was getting some tech support from PTG to run the car at Le Mans with the blessing and possible tech support from BMW USA (after being kicked out by ACO), and someone somewhere in a mag article suggested that the Porsche "fix" was in, thus the car, the only real challenge, gets no entry. It wasn't even on the reserve.

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Old 27 Mar 2003, 11:34 (Ref:549868)   #9
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OK. As there is bound to be comment about who has been accepted by the ACO and who hasn't, which people don't seem to want to put in the thread set up for the purpose, I'm going to take the liberty of re-naming this one, so that everyone can, if they wish, vent their spleen on the ACO's use of discretion (or alternatively praise them for their wise decision-making)

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Old 27 Mar 2003, 11:50 (Ref:549883)   #10
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Norma, Durango, maybe (hopefully!) taurus - even without the Morgan, the 2003 Le Mans grid will have a "retro" flavour
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Old 27 Mar 2003, 11:54 (Ref:549888)   #11
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I for one am quite happy with the balance of the entry, sure its a shame room could not have been found for the Morgan at the expense of a Porker.

2 RFH domes and the lone Kondo example are sure to keep the Audis & Bentleys honest for the first hour at least.
The corvette/Ferrari/Viper battle carries on and may turn out to be one of the features for this years race.
The TVRs will no doubt be pushing the porkers & 360's. so much so that the Bits may have a walkover in all three (or 4) classes!!
Bentley, Prodrive (British Ferrari!)& TVR

As we don't know who put there names forward to the ACO we may be a bit premature in critising them over missing MG's etc.
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Old 27 Mar 2003, 12:00 (Ref:549895)   #12
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H16, you have to live in the real world. It is the greatest sportscar race of them all (by miles - but that's just my opinion) and it happens to be held in France and run by a French organisation that can basically invite who it wishes. There has always been a preferential attitude shown towards French manufacturers (particularly WR, but also Didier Bonnet and others) and there always will be. WR have always supported Le Mans and whatever you or I may think about their cars, just because they're not exactly at the cutting edge doesn't mean they shouldn't have their day.

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Old 27 Mar 2003, 12:04 (Ref:549903)   #13
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BTW, as far as I'm concerned, the omission of the Morgan is a major disappointment. Last year's car did more than enough to justify an entry this year. What do you want - just a little bit more variety or more boring 911's?
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Old 27 Mar 2003, 13:14 (Ref:550006)   #14
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Tim Northcutt should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTim Northcutt should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTim Northcutt should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTim Northcutt should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
My Thoughts:

Although tradition says "invites & alternates," why not do what American racing does?

Let all 76 entrants come to Le Mans for a week in May instead of the few PQ days...

Set a given number, or an approximate number, of "accepted slots" for GT and GTS numbers that will be part of the 50 who will ultimately race...

Make EVERYBODY qualify for the "List of 50" to come back in June..based on set qualifying sessions the last 2-3 days of the week....

That way, not politics comes into it...the fastest cars and the teams that "deserve" to be running in June actually get there...

I can hardly wait for the responses to this one....

One more Question:

76 teams sent entries...

50 chosen and 6 others as alternates...

Who were the other 20?

Was Knighthawk one of them?

What about American Spirit???

Morgan had to have been one....

How about others???

R&M?

Send your ideas or your information on this, too...
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Old 27 Mar 2003, 13:44 (Ref:550026)   #15
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The problem with that is that the locals would not allow the roads to be shut for a week. Unless of course the prequals were held on the Bugatti Circuit. However the theory is that they select teams of interest and those who have a chance of lasting the distance. By running qualifying you get teams who can run a fast lap or two, but half of them may be out after two hours.

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