Spain to Belgium Question

[ScotsBrutesFan]

I didn't really want to start another covid thread but... would I be right in thinking that anyone who attends the Spanish GP this weekend, can't come back to the UK before the Belgium event?

They are going to have to stay somewhere in continental Europe or face a 14 day quarantine back in the UK which would then rule them out of travelling to Belgium?

Or does the F1 bubble allow them back into the UK with out quarantine?

[Aysedasi]

No real idea. Are you thinking team members? My lad was spannering at the ELMS last weekend and came back from Belgium with no quarantine requirement. He tells me that the team have some kind of paper authorisation which provides exemption, but I've not seen it (nor has he, I suspect).

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Not just teams but anyone in the F1 bubble, FIA and FOM personnel, on site broadcast crews etc.

[EastonNeston]

I believe, that subject to having acceptable testing and social distancing procedures in place, there are exemptions for Elite sports and some industries.

[Aysedasi]

From the (admitedly little) info that I have, I believe that's correct.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by EastonNeston

I believe, that subject to having acceptable testing and social distancing procedures in place, there are exemptions for Elite sports and some industries.

My understanding also

[Born Racer]

Which seems strange to me, because if the government are going to make sweeping assumptions about people potentially carry a virus, when did sportspeople's lives become more important than anyone else's with regards to inconveniencing them for 2 weeks?

(Mini rant from someone returning to the UK from Spain at the beginning of September. )

[Aysedasi]

I'm guessing it has something to do with the level of care, protection and bubbling that they are subject to while 'performing', which cannot be said of 'Joe Public'....

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

Or does the F1 bubble allow them back into the UK with out quarantine?

presumably quarantines only apply if one wishes to stay in the country after the quarantine period ends.

so upon returning, you quarantine with your family for however many days (up to 14 days) you are in country but if you decide to leave before those 14 days then you are free to break your quarantine provided you are directly leaving the country?

Originally Posted by Born Racer

Which seems strange to me, because if the government are going to make sweeping assumptions about people potentially carry a virus, when did sportspeople's lives become more important than anyone else's with regards to inconveniencing them for 2 weeks?

(Mini rant from someone returning to the UK from Spain at the beginning of September. )

this may be unpopular or controversial to say, but there are already exemptions for people on gov't business, involved in the transportation industries, as well as people with legitimate business needs so i would place an individual involved in an international sport providing entertainment to many millions as also more important then people returning from a vacation or a second property in a foreign country.

that said, neither group should be more important than those who lack the means to leave a place at all. imo, they have the preeminent right to protect the health integrity of their own communities.

[ASCII Man]

F1 is not essential so, for the love of god, please stay away.

[greentrumpet]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

Which seems strange to me, because if the government are going to make sweeping assumptions about people potentially carry a virus, when did sportspeople's lives become more important than anyone else's with regards to inconveniencing them for 2 weeks?

(Mini rant from someone returning to the UK from Spain at the beginning of September. )

Since when has HMGs response to Covid made any sense? I guess the special treatment is because those involved are all either very wealthy or related to Dominic Cummings (Rasputin to BoJo).

[Born Racer]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

presumably quarantines only apply if one wishes to stay in the country after the quarantine period ends.

so upon returning, you quarantine with your family for however many days (up to 14 days) you are in country but if you decide to leave before those 14 days then you are free to break your quarantine provided you are directly leaving the country?



this may be unpopular or controversial to say, but there are already exemptions for people on gov't business, involved in the transportation industries, as well as people with legitimate business needs so i would place an individual involved in an international sport providing entertainment to many millions as also more important then people returning from a vacation or a second property in a foreign country.

that said, neither group should be more important than those who lack the means to leave a place at all. imo, they have the preeminent right to protect the health integrity of their own communities.

Nothing is too controversial with this, as the pandemic has some big questions at its heart.

I understand, though, that transport workers are in a situation where it is normal they can move more freely. I also accept Aysedasi's point about F1 personnel being subject to tests, so they are better protected. My criticism is more with the lack of support and testing for the rest of us who have lives to live and things to do that don't involve staying stuck in.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by greentrumpet

Since when has HMGs response to Covid made any sense? I guess the special treatment is because those involved are all either very wealthy or related to Dominic Cummings (Rasputin to BoJo).

The whole Western World's response is Monty Pythonesqu, so inconsistent that it is just plain laughable (in a horrible black farce sort of way).

[S griffin]

[QUOTE=wnut;3994862]The whole Western World's response is Monty Pythonesqu, so inconsistent that it is just plain laughable (in a horrible black farce sort of way).[/QUOTE

Yeah, who needs satire when you have certain world leaders who do it for real? Funny how life can imitate art eventually. Things like Monty Python have really prepared us for some good laughs it seems

[Dipster]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I'm guessing it has something to do with the level of care, protection and bubbling that they are subject to while 'performing', which cannot be said of 'Joe Public'....

I am perhaps more cynical and think it is really a question of money! F1, and other sports, have become such big business that they have a bit of clout. And I suspect they have used it.

[Marcel ten Caat]

Journalists at Spa are also considered Elite Sportspersons ;-)

[greentrumpet]

With no spectators F1 is worth the square root of nothing if TV and other media aren't allowed to turn up.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by greentrumpet

With no spectators F1 is worth the square root of nothing if TV and other media aren't allowed to turn up.

TV has been there but no other media generally in any paddocks so far.

[greentrumpet]

Dunno, I wasn't there!

[TrapezeArtist]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I'm guessing it has something to do with the level of care, protection and bubbling that they are subject to while 'performing', which cannot be said of 'Joe Public'....

You mean wearing a mask and touching your face every few seconds? (Remember, at the beginning of this we were told not to touch our faces. That has all gone away now.)

[Kempi]

You mean wearing a mask and touching your face every few seconds? (Remember, at the beginning of this we were told not to touch our faces. That has all gone away now.)

No, you are still not supposed to do that. It just has not been mentioned as often, similar to washing hands and sneezing in your elbow not having been mentioned as often anymore.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

You mean wearing a mask and touching your face every few seconds? (Remember, at the beginning of this we were told not to touch our faces. That has all gone away now.)

Maybe it's gone away where you live, but it's certainly mentioned a lot north of the border.

Also, try not to touch your face out in public.

[Adam43]

Perhaps the government needs to start saying this again and not credit the public with too much sense. Those things are pretty obvious.

Here is a public information film from KT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYsZYlrzQxU

[Aysedasi]

KT? King Trump?

[S griffin]

I hardly think Trump wants to have something that makes him sound like a girl