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Old 25 Feb 2018, 11:17 (Ref:3803785)   #226
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Mercedes are the only team so far to have gone with high suspension mountings and and high radiator inlets. As I understand it, the car uses a fin on top of the side guide vanes to get the air from under the suspension and move it upwards to the inlets.

Those Ferrari side pods have interesting inlets. What are they like that for?
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Old 25 Feb 2018, 12:37 (Ref:3803800)   #227
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Yes, most of the teams don't reveal their full hand until the final test. Or even first race weekend. The McLaren I suspect is one car that is not in full race spec for sure.

The barge boards area in front of the side pods will be the biggest development race this year. Watch how complicated this area will get with all sorts of aero developments as the year progresses. It ain't going to look pretty.
Why the barge board area?
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Old 25 Feb 2018, 13:02 (Ref:3803809)   #228
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Why the barge board area?
I have read an article by Paddy Lowe and also mention by others who should know, that bargeboards is a key area of development and potential gain this year.
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For Lowe, whose FW41 design was revealed in computer images last week, the potential for downforce gains in this area of the car is immense, especially as other areas where performance was coming from have become increasingly limited.

"As we know in the 2017 regulations, there was new volume and new freedom in the bargeboard area," he said.

"We saw through 2017 an explosion of new devices in that space, and that process has continued yet further.

"When you see our car close up, you will see that we have developed the car in that area even more.

"I will be expecting to see the same on our competition – because it is the biggest area of opportunity still not fully exploited with these regulations that came in last year."

The importance of downforce-generating devices in front of the sidepods is being further ramped up this year, because aero benefits of the T-wing, and potential for exhaust blowing of the monkey seat, have now gone.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...-lowe-1006760/

For those (I was one) who were not aware what the monkey seat is on an F1 car, it is a "small wing underneath the main rear wing of the car that uses a loophole in the bodywork regulations to generate a small amount of additional downforce." That loophole has been closed for 2018.
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Old 25 Feb 2018, 14:30 (Ref:3803822)   #229
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For those (I was one) who were not aware what the monkey seat is on an F1 car, it is a "small wing underneath the main rear wing of the car that uses a loophole in the bodywork regulations to generate a small amount of additional downforce." That loophole has been closed for 2018.
Not strictly speaking true. Monkey seats can still be fitted but the area they are allowed in is away from the exhaust plume so the benefits aren't the same.
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Old 25 Feb 2018, 19:02 (Ref:3803867)   #230
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Why the barge board area?
It was last year, so no reason why this shouldn’t continue. It’s an area where there is some freedom so it’s an opportunity. It helps cooling, airflow round the side, the “seal” round the edge of the floor and the underfloor aero and the airflow over the side pods.

This year will be the 25th anniversary of the barge board (from my memory).
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This year will be the 25th anniversary of the barge board (from my memory).
weird stat of the week. good job.
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It was last year, so no reason why this shouldn’t continue. It’s an area where there is some freedom so it’s an opportunity. It helps cooling, airflow round the side, the “seal” round the edge of the floor and the underfloor aero and the airflow over the side pods.

This year will be the 25th anniversary of the barge board (from my memory).
That's interesting because in this article, https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/m...18-car-979229/, it mentions Mercedes experimenting with higher rake angles and running the front of the car low and the rear high, in order to create a form of ground effect using a combination of the front wing sealing the airflow and the diffuser performing better as more air can flow underneath it. If the barge boards can also be used to seal the edge of the floor and a longer wheel base is used, I would have thought that would help in producing this form of ground effect.
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this isn't something that's scientific but i wonder whether bargeboards and stuff will start being complained about by rival teams as moveable aerodynamic devices?
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this isn't something that's scientific but i wonder whether bargeboards and stuff will start being complained about by rival teams as moveable aerodynamic devices?
If the barge boards are to be used to seal the edge of the floor, then they would have to be rigid. If they were moveable then the airflow would be variable, which is no good in creating ground effect.
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