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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:00 (Ref:2485808)   #16
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It sounds a great idea but don't forget that, on top of circuit hire, you have MSA permit fees, expenses for timekeepers, scrutineers, rescue and recovery/snatch vehicles etc....and some sort of refreshment subsidy for the marshals to factor in to the 'cost per minute'. You also need an MSA organising club to take it on and get the permit. Nothing there that's insurmountable however.
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:10 (Ref:2485814)   #17
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Fantastic idea, how about a double 6 hour race in a similar vain to the double 12 hours that Brooklands staged
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:12 (Ref:2485816)   #18
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:14 (Ref:2485819)   #19
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The figures quoted for Brands were to run a race at an existing meeting, so as far as I'm aware, there would be no further charges. As Peter says, if you fill the grid, it is a viable proposition. Obviously, the cashflow side of things would need to be carefully planned. Maybe a sponsor could be persuaded to help with that, in return for a share of the potential modest profit?
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:14 (Ref:2485820)   #20
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OK let's go the whole hog; a 24 hour race for historics. Pie in the sky? Probably, but I'd just love to be there!
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:15 (Ref:2485821)   #21
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You may laugh Mr T. The official photograher/race reporter won't get paid either!
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Les Vingt Quatre Heures d'Anglesey - I like it!
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:18 (Ref:2485824)   #23
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Would that be me then? If so nothing new there then!
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:22 (Ref:2485828)   #24
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The figures quoted for Brands were to run a race at an existing meeting, so as far as I'm aware, there would be no further charges. As Peter says, if you fill the grid, it is a viable proposition. Obviously, the cashflow side of things would need to be carefully planned. Maybe a sponsor could be persuaded to help with that, in return for a share of the potential modest profit?
The thing is Alan, you'd be lucky to get an organising club to take on a race such as this, within the framework of an existing meeting. As, with practice, it would take up a significant % of the day, the race would have to bear, at least, that proportion of all the other expenses.
I'm not being negative but having been involved in operational budgeting for race meetings, it's quite frightening what all the 'extras' mount up to!
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 10:22 (Ref:2485829)   #25
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But I thought that all the Autosport staff got paid John.
I agree with JT,24 would be good but not too sure on how many takers there would be plus of course that narrows down the circuit choice's a bit as well.
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I know it would perhaps be difficult in the current financial climate but there always is the possibility of sponsorship, especially with a "different" race. Reallistically if it is going to be a 4/6 hour race it does need to be at a track at least 2 miles round. Spa would of course be fantastic but perhaps it should be kept to this country both for sponsorship reasons and the fact that some drivers would not want to go abroad or may only have a Nat "B" licence. I will have a word with a friend who has organised stuff like this before. If interest is ongoing we could put a poll out on it. All speculation I know but well done Podd for bringing the subject up.
Agreed re track length. We then must consider what's available and it comes down to (IMO) Silverstone International, Donington National(?), Snetterton and I think possibly Angelssey. Anything in Ireland? My reasoning is noise issues.

If it were to run to CSCC regs then it does open up the opportunities for interesting interpretations of historic cars.
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 12:06 (Ref:2485866)   #27
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It would be great to have an opportunity to race at such an event - I'll never have car elible for an FIA type event & even Production S1 of Britcar is probably beyond me so something aimed at a lower level of clubman would be great. I agree with Peter, something along the lines of the CSCC Swinging Sixties, Tin Tops & Future Classics regs (perhaps with a suitable date cut off - 1990?) would cover a host of cars without flooding the entry with bewinged monsters!!!.

I would be in favour of Anglesey because its is one of my favourite circuits in the UK now and is probably cheaper to hire than most others. The circuit seems to have sometimes struggled for entries at some meetings but perhaps people would be persuaded to attend a 6 hour race. The downside of anglesy is that there's no pit garages. It does host 6 hour rounds of the "FunCup" so must be used to the endurance race requirements, though.

Some practical questions, though. What happens about refuelling, ie would cars need dry break refuelling systems & "bag tanks" (might be difficult/ expensive to fit to the sort of cars i think we are envisaging attending). Similarly, what about tyre changes or do we expect tyres to last the race??
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Old 18 Jun 2009, 12:17 (Ref:2485873)   #28
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The problem with Anglesey is that for most of us it's at the other end of the world. However if the price is correct I could be persuaded and if the CSCC had to get involved then I could even find a car that they would allow me to use.
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Agreed re track length. We then must consider what's available and it comes down to (IMO) Silverstone International, Donington National(?), Snetterton and I think possibly Angelssey. Anything in Ireland? My reasoning is noise issues.
TT circuit on the Isle of Man. Now there is a dream.
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"What happens about refuelling"

At the Britcar 24 hour at Silverstone(which was run on a Nat B) they had standard fuel pumps set up in what is usally the assembely area and you accessed via the service road after Bridge.
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