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Old 30 Aug 2006, 21:09 (Ref:1856983)   #26
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Re. the -9 Hotz car, I too suspect it was a customer car.
As no such customer appeared in F2, I would assume it was only used on the Swiss hills. Maybe it had an accident early in its career?
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Old 31 Aug 2006, 14:51 (Ref:1856985)   #27
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Fischer's car calls itself 772-3
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Old 1 Sep 2006, 09:15 (Ref:1856986)   #28
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The Dickson car owned 2001 by Bengt Ernryd [Sweden] but now sold I believe.

If all these numbers 1-10 are allocated in Europe what was Masahiro Hasemi's car that debuted in Japan in March 77?

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Old 1 Sep 2006, 09:31 (Ref:1856987)   #29
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Did Hasemi have a 772? I have him in a Kojima early 1977 and then a Chevron B40 later in the year. My data's from the JAF site.

Had a quick look at F1R and they have Hasemi as a DNA at Suzuka 6 Mar 1977 with a 772. I can't see it again in their book nor on Formula2.net. As it was only a DNA, maybe it never existed.

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Old 14 Sep 2006, 16:21 (Ref:1857005)   #30
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A fresh March 772 summary. Lawrence's book says eight were built but Adam has revealed another two built from parts.

772-1 Pierre Maublanc French & European hillclimbs and F2 1977 [F1R] ...
772-2 Maublanc for Pierre Bardinon F2 (2 races only) 1977 [F1R] ...
772-3 Norman Dickson G8 and F2 1977 [MN] - Jimmy Jack 1978 [AF] ...
772-4 Angeliri (Euroracing) for Gaudenzia Mantova F2 1977 (retubbed on monocoque 772-14 after Hockenheim and wore plate '762-6') [AF] ...
772-5 Euroracing/March for Giacomelli & Ribeiro F2 1977 [MN] - Sergio Minotti F2 1978 [F1R] ... this plate now on a ex-Riley 77B
772-6 Euroracing/March for Riccardo Zunino F2 1977 [MN] - Ted Williams hills and sprints 1978-79 [AF] ...
772-7 Euroracing for Pesenti-Rossi & Ghinzani F2 1977 [F1R] ...
772-8 Euroracing for Alberto Colombo F2 1977 [MN] ...
772-9 Built from 762-U1 - Markus Hotz for customer May 1977 ...
772-10 Built using several second hand components. To David Franklin Jan 1978 - Alan Richards 1979-80 ... John Meredith 1982 [AS 8 Apr 1982 p46] ...

1977 - 772s in French hillclimbs

I was somewhat confused by the number of 772s that appear on the French hills before Hotz' car is delivered in May but my vast Eschappement collection explains some of this. The season starts:

Valflaunes 20 Mar 1977 - no 772s (Lapierre in a 762 + 1 742)
Ampus 27 Mar 1977 - Maublanc 1st (Pozet in a 762 + 2 752s and a 742)
Baglos-Sabran 27 Mar 1977 - no 772s (+ 1 742)
Cagnotte 3 Apr 1977 - no 772s (Mamers and Lateste in 762s + 1 742)
Hebecrevon 3 Apr 1977 - Maublanc 2nd (+ 2 742s and one other March)
Chanas 11 Apr 1977 - no 772s (Pozet in a 762)
Tonnerre 17 Apr 1977 - Mamers 2nd, Maublanc 4th, Lapierre 6th (Pozet in a 762 + 3 752s and a 742)

However, Escappement (May 1977 p132) says of the Tonnerre event:
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Encore auréolé de sa victoire d'Ampus, P. Maublanc disposait de la toute nouvelle March 772 animée par la BMW, tandis que celle de mamers et du vanqueur 75 et 76 Lapierre d'aspect identique etaient des "reconditionnées 77".
In other words, Maublanc's car is new but the Mamers and Lapierre cars are older cars revamped. As they both drove 762s a few weeks before, one assumes they had 762/772s.

Marc Pozet is in the ex-Mieusset 762 by the way.

1978 - 772s in F2

Apart from Minotti's '772-5' [F1R], OASC Racing Team had a '772' for Jerich, Mantova had one at Vallelunga and even at Donington, and a guy called Henning Hagenbauer had one at Hockenheim. A reference in F1R to Dickson in 772-3 is wrong of course - that was his 772P.

Other '772's

Ted Dzierzek in 1981 and Rodney Eyles in 1985.

Anyone got anything to add?

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Old 21 Apr 2007, 18:56 (Ref:1897195)   #31
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Another update:

772-10 Built using several second hand components. To David Franklin Jan 1978 - Alan Richards 1979-80 ... John Meredith 1982 [AS 8 Apr 1982 p46] ... Rodney Eyles [advertised AS 9 Feb 1984 p58] ...

Advertised as "March 772 rolling chassis inc FGA gearbox Pilbeam modified David Franklin 1978 championship car ... Rodney Eyles Wellington".
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Old 11 Jun 2007, 22:16 (Ref:1934457)   #32
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772-3 Norman Dickson G8 and F2 1977 [MN] - Jimmy Jack 1978 [AF] ...

Other '772's

Ted Dzierzek in 1981
Drifty's been talking to Stuart Lawson and we've moved 772-3 forward. We already know that Jimmy Jack used it mainly for hillclimbs and had it until the end of 1979. At that point the 772, still with its BMW engine, was sold to "guy in Gloucester can't remember his name ... he was a director of Barclay's Bank and used it for Hillclimbs ... he lived on a huge estate and had a whole stable of very expensive old racing cars, I went there and saw his impressive 'Castle'".

Lawson bought it back from this man some time around May 1981 (my estimate) part-exchanging his recently-purchased ex-Hunter March 80A. The 772 now had a Hart engine and Lawson then shared it with Ted Dzierzek through the rest of 1981.

Steve, Ted - remember anyone in Gloucestershire matching that description? Wasn't you was it Ted
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Old 12 Jun 2007, 09:56 (Ref:1934855)   #33
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Ted Williams maybe???
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Old 12 Jun 2007, 12:01 (Ref:1934973)   #34
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Drifty's been talking to Stuart Lawson and we've moved 772-3 forward. We already know that Jimmy Jack used it mainly for hillclimbs and had it until the end of 1979. At that point the 772, still with its BMW engine, was sold to "guy in Gloucester can't remember his name ... he was a director of Barclay's Bank and used it for Hillclimbs ... he lived on a huge estate and had a whole stable of very expensive old racing cars, I went there and saw his impressive 'Castle'".

Lawson bought it back from this man some time around May 1981 (my estimate) part-exchanging his recently-purchased ex-Hunter March 80A. The 772 now had a Hart engine and Lawson then shared it with Ted Dzierzek through the rest of 1981.

Steve, Ted - remember anyone in Gloucestershire matching that description? Wasn't you was it Ted
Tony Brown appeared at Shelsley Walsh in 1981 with a March 80A/81A. The car had white sidepods, dark blue upper bodywork with white/red stripes.

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Old 12 Jun 2007, 14:26 (Ref:1935096)   #35
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How loaded was Tony Brown?
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Old 12 Jun 2007, 16:45 (Ref:1935223)   #36
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So the Stuart Lawson car was 772#3, now believed to have gone to Sweden and now driven by Christian Fischer in Euro F2 and now with BMW engine again.

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Old 12 Jun 2007, 17:36 (Ref:1935256)   #37
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How loaded was Tony Brown?
I have no idea. I was just pointing to someone appearing with the relevant car at about the time you mentioned.

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Old 23 Jun 2007, 13:55 (Ref:1944936)   #38
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stuart has confirmed tony brown is the man he dealt with over the 772/80A march cars
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Old 10 Jul 2007, 12:47 (Ref:1959616)   #39
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whilst searching for other info found the car was for sale in this advert
http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/mar...2/772xf2ss.htm
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Old 17 Jul 2007, 07:28 (Ref:1965383)   #40
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That is 772-3.I think that the "man with castle in gloucestershire" might be a "red herring" ps Allen I live in an old pub. pps I owned a 722.
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Tony Brown's castle is bigger than yours, even if he doesn't have a full-sized ballroom.
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Old 17 Jul 2007, 08:17 (Ref:1965438)   #42
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So twinkle toes have u been gliding around the floor there?
Ted are the pumps and barrels still in tact? or do you mean u dont go home that often FROM the pub?
772#3 is a 772 car wide tub ex Tony Brown swapped with Stuart Lawson for 78B

The 772#3 car is now in EEC under " house arrest"

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Old 17 Jul 2007, 10:58 (Ref:1965607)   #43
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Pumps and barrels taken away in 1939. The dance hall was last used in the 60s when my late father ran the local jazz club. All this very off topic !!!!!!!
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Old 17 Jul 2007, 11:33 (Ref:1965626)   #44
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i thought we had found a venue for the annual 10 10 xmas party!
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DW, where does Stuart Lawson's "78B" come into this???
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Old 17 Jul 2007, 12:10 (Ref:1965652)   #46
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I think if u read up on the 772P thread u get some info
Stuart part ex his 78b car against 772#3 car
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I think you mean his 80A, the ex-Hunter car.
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Thought you might be interested to know that 772-3 has returned to Gloucestershire once again where it is being restored to race next year
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who owns the car now it was impounded by the switzerpolizie
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It was never impounded by the police,only the Swiss Court
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