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View Poll Results: Best of the 50s
Juan Manuel Fangio 22 73.33%
Alberto Ascari 5 16.67%
Sterling Moss 2 6.67%
Mike Hawthorn 0 0%
Guisseppe Farina 0 0%
Peter Collins 0 0%
Jack Brabham 0 0%
Someone else 1 3.33%
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Old 25 Jan 2003, 15:53 (Ref:485610)   #1
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Greatest Driver Of the 1950s?

Not sure why I'm interesetd in this, my dad was only born in 1955. But I'm curious as to what peole make of the drivers of the early years.
Was Fangio as good as they say? Clealy his stats look better than they are because the formative years of his career were passed when the Wold Championship started, and he drove the best car almost every year.

How disadvantaged was Moss by his tendency to drive British cars?

Were Ascari's championships mainly down to the car, and Fangio's absence in 1952?
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Old 25 Jan 2003, 17:00 (Ref:485640)   #2
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If Stirling Moss had the equipment that Fangio almost always had, then Moss would have been the legend instead of Fangio.

That's my opinion.

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Old 25 Jan 2003, 17:39 (Ref:485671)   #3
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Theres a lot of room for argument. When all is said and done it would have to be Fangio although in a modern, more professional era he wouldnt have been nearly so dominant.
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Old 25 Jan 2003, 19:08 (Ref:485741)   #4
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The big IF... of the 50's is Ascari. Remember that if Ascari had survived, he instead of Fangio would have driven the Lancia D50s. I think it would have been between Fangio and Ascari if the latter had lived to race a few more years.
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Old 25 Jan 2003, 19:17 (Ref:485750)   #5
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I voted for Ascari for the reasons that Jordi outlined. Alberto was died too early - in the Lancia D50s, he would have been dominant...

By the way, I base this on discussions with my dad - Alberto was killed before I was born.

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Old 25 Jan 2003, 20:45 (Ref:485845)   #6
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Fangio.

Its simple really. Despite Ascari's talent, he didn't survive and Fangio did.
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Fangio said of Ascari, when the Italian died, that he had lost his greatest rival.

And Fangio would have still been winning races through the late 1980s, ignoring age of course. He was simply that good. But today's cars would be too fragile and tempermental for him to be sucessful in (he was not afraid to abuse his equipment when the situation demanded it).

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Old 26 Jan 2003, 00:03 (Ref:485981)   #8
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Jean Behra. Never had the equipment worthy of his talents. Spent far too long in Gordini's hoping they would become competitive but still produced some startling results in uncompetitive cars. Tragically killed at Avus in 1959 just after leaving Ferrari...
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Old 26 Jan 2003, 00:58 (Ref:486019)   #9
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Fangio, but as others habve said Ascari is worthy of a mention, but a big what if, similarly with Moss, who suffered abit from always wanting to drive British cars whenever he could
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Old 26 Jan 2003, 08:43 (Ref:486216)   #10
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I vote for all of them,they were all legends.Driving the cars of the day,on skinny tyres,with dodgy brakes at incredible speeds ,on terribly unsafe circuits,with little or no safety gear.Incredible people,all of them.
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Old 26 Jan 2003, 22:42 (Ref:486826)   #11
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Fangio was prolific in his days and Moss is right up there also.
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Old 27 Jan 2003, 13:26 (Ref:487314)   #12
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As this is the F1 forum, I presume we're talking GP driver here? I might give Moss the edge in sportscars, but in GP, Fangio was the man.
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They we're all great, no one of the today's drivers can be measured with them. It's a sin.
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