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Old 8 Jul 2020, 15:26 (Ref:3986769)   #31
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sorry going back a bit...have no problem with EVs and think Tesla is a cool company but i just doubt their ability to scale up production and meet the demand. i think people will be waiting a long long time to see delivery and in the meantime the traditional manus will catch up with more modestly priced EVs and established dealership network that fits with how people are used to buying cars.

if one was serious about buying an EV then why would they wait? particularity when there looks to be so so many more options soon to be available for immediate purchase?
I guess they are using the 'confirmed orders' line to help their market strategy.
But in reality, if you were selling a $40k item, and the deposit was just $100 that was fully refundable at any time, would you really consider it to be a firm order?

I'm anticipating that a lot of deposits may be taken back over the next few months/years as people opt for an alternative.
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I guess they are using the 'confirmed orders' line to help their market strategy.
But in reality, if you were selling a $40k item, and the deposit was just $100 that was fully refundable at any time, would you really consider it to be a firm order?

I'm anticipating that a lot of deposits may be taken back over the next few months/years as people opt for an alternative.
Possibly it will be like getting your name on the "Morgan" order book, and sell it on at an inflated price before you take delivery
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If you are more interested in how older vehicles can still have a place in a world if combustion engines are no longer permitted - a garage in Grenfell provides a service to electrify classic VWs.

I appreciate some people might not be keen on such a move, feeling it loses the authenticity of such a car. But, particularly in the world of classic VWs, so many people modify older vehicles in ever increasingly ways so why not turn it electric?





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We've also seen that the hot-hatch market is looking like prime territory for an increase in EV sales. Cupra have an entry into that market with the El-Born.

For a VW group car, it's no surprise that the MEB platform sits underneath this body.
'Since the 2019 El-Born concept was unveiled Cupra's design team have given it a new, brand-specific look, largely centring around a more aggressive front-end redesign and bespoke interior details.'

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I think that this film is interesting regarding electric vehicles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljVAA1Tr8Yo
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If you are more interested in how older vehicles can still have a place in a world if combustion engines are no longer permitted - a garage in Grenfell provides a service to electrify classic VWs.
anecdotal, but several of the custom car shows seems to be making it more acceptable to modernize a classic car rather than attempt to restore them to factory/original condition. maybe just a natural transition as old parts are harder to come by and people wanting a more comfortable modern ride experience with all the tech while enjoying a classic body styling.

i can see these sorts of conversion garages absolutely becoming more and more common place.

and if the conversions are reasonably priced relative to a new EV, many may opt to upgrade/convert their existing gas car rather than buy a new vehicle.
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I guess they are using the 'confirmed orders' line to help their market strategy.

But in reality, if you were selling a $40k item, and the deposit was just $100 that was fully refundable at any time, would you really consider it to be a firm order?



I'm anticipating that a lot of deposits may be taken back over the next few months/years as people opt for an alternative.
And a lot of those pre-orders are people expecting to sell their slot later for a profit. It worked on the S, not so much on the Model 3 later in the run.


The old chassis electric thing is huge in California. There are a number of shops doing VW and 911 swaps. Wheeler Dealer used one of the shops for a Maserati years ago. Sold very well.
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Links or connections to historical models seem to be a continuing trend in the world of EVs.
Are the makers looking to appeal to a certain market, genuinely reflecting their brands' heritage, or simply recycling names from their bank?

Jaguar are potentially using one of their most iconic names, in a refreshed way.
Jaguar EV-Type: trademark filing hints at electric F-Type successor

'The name EV-Type appears to be a reference to the iconic Jaguar E-Type sports car of the 1960s and 1970s. This, along with the fact that the only Jaguar model still using the ‘Type’ suffix is the F-Type, adds considerable weight to the assumption.

It is still believed that Jaguar hasn’t firmly decided on what form the replacement for the F-Type will take, despite its designers having strong ideas. Former design director Ian Callum revealed last year that he had created a blueprint for Jaguar’s next-generation sports car with a mid-engined layout and a look inspired by the ill-fated C-X75 of 2010.'
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