Porsche unveil 2007 RS Spyder (for customers) - Page 4

HORNDAWG · 28 Dec 2006, 21:24 (Ref:1800754)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

Why else would Porsche be looking at the rules for P1 then? So they've considered it. And they above anyone else should have a grasp of their marketing and business model.

And where in that article, did Hartmut Kristen, say anything about pursuing or participating in P-1?!! When asked what he thought of the rules, he replied. I got no inference that Porsche was thinking of P-1!

L.P.

jhansen · 28 Dec 2006, 21:31 (Ref:1800760)

The coupe part of the rules applies to P1 if I recall correctly. So if Porsche are disappointed with the rules involving P1 I would infer that they have considered it.

HORNDAWG · 28 Dec 2006, 21:40 (Ref:1800767)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

The coupe part of the rules applies to P1 if I recall correctly. So if Porsche are disappointed with the rules involving P1 I would infer that they have considered it.

So I suppose they know the rules of GT-1, and do not like them. So they are thinking of building a GT-1 car?? Just because they are aware of the rules, does not mean they are thinking of participating in that class! I would venture to guess, it is a rule that everyone in "LM" type racing is aware of.

L.P.

jhansen · 28 Dec 2006, 21:44 (Ref:1800771)

Then why comment on them? Spyders will be allowed in P2. So Porsche have nothing to fear in that respect. There have already been rumors that the P2 program could morph into a P1 program. But Porsche would maybe rather do this with an open top car. Thus the comment.

It's my speculation of course, but I am sure they have looked into P1. So why is hard to imagine that Porsche are giving the ACO a nudge? The ACO would love to have Porsche in P1. The story line is magic. Porsche know this.

HORNDAWG · 28 Dec 2006, 21:46 (Ref:1800774)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

Then why comment on them? Spyders will be allowed in P2. So Porsche have nothing to fear in that respect. There have already been rumors that the P2 program could morph into a P1 program. But Porsche would maybe rather do this with an open top car. Thus the comment.

It's my speculation of course, but I am sure they have looked into P1. So why is hard to imagine that Porsche are giving the ACO a nudge? The ACO would love to have Porsche in P1. The story line is magic. Porsche know this.

Because he was asked a direct question about it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

L.P.

jhansen · 28 Dec 2006, 23:21 (Ref:1800824)

I wonder if you saw the Seinfeld exclamation point episode?

Seriously though, why argue about this? I think it's fairly logical to assume that Porsche have considered the P1 rules. They built a P2 prototype. So at some point, they would have given thought to P1. Furthermore, they are not pleased with the coupe aspect of the future P1 rules. I don't see where I'm saying anything ground breaking or untrue. Am I speculating? Sure. But I think it's a pretty safe speculation.

**Bentley03** · 28 Dec 2006, 23:51 (Ref:1800838)

I actually thought the most revealing part of the interview surrounded Hartmut's suggestion that we may see another Spyder (or Spyder's) in the ALMS next year - "Since interest in the U.S. is huge, we might have further news before the start of the 2007 season."

And equally revealing was the somewhat downbeat reference to the Spyder situation in Europe for 2007 - "In Europe we are still looking into different opportunities." Doesn't sound too promising to me and I've all but given up hope of seeing a Spyder at Le Mans next June. I'm convinced that Porsche expected to be there, but it looks increasingly unlikely. Very sad..........

HORNDAWG · 29 Dec 2006, 02:50 (Ref:1800892)

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Originally Posted by jhansen

I wonder if you saw the Seinfeld exclamation point episode?

Seriously though, why argue about this? I think it's fairly logical to assume that Porsche have considered the P1 rules. They built a P2 prototype. So at some point, they would have given thought to P1. Furthermore, they are not pleased with the coupe aspect of the future P1 rules. I don't see where I'm saying anything ground breaking or untrue. Am I speculating? Sure. But I think it's a pretty safe speculation.

Ya, why argue about it? You know the climate in the boardroom? The specifics of VW A.G. financial woes? Audi senior board members going to VW! The desire to build and maintain market share in both gas & diesel Auto markets. Lots of variable's involved here. The desire of Porsche to have an affordable(relatively) customer P-2 base, like they have world wide with the GT cars! Business through racing. Did they contemplate P-1, probably, relevancy? Maybe they had billions of reasons($)not to be in P-1.

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And this shows Porsche are/were looking at P1. Why give them a reason not to enter the top category?

L.P.

old man · 29 Dec 2006, 11:06 (Ref:1801073)

No Porsche teams in either category announced yet, what are Embassy doing, they are my bet for an LMP2 entry in the LMS and we were told it would come soon.

**Bentley03** · 29 Dec 2006, 11:29 (Ref:1801089)

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Originally Posted by old man

No Porsche teams in either category announced yet, what are Embassy doing, they are my bet for an LMP2 entry in the LMS and we were told it would come soon.

I do hope you're right, although if the deal was done some time ago I suspect it won't be a Spyder. Such a shame GruppeM aren't in a position to take up the challenge of LMP2 with a Spyder (or two!).

old man · 29 Dec 2006, 11:43 (Ref:1801095)

As I understand it Kenny Chen's business interests are very much in China at the moment with a booming Porsche distributorship although I think the team still exists in skeletal form. Certain elements of the team would have loved this but the cost to Mr Chen of the 2005 season was said to be frightening and he may be unwilling to spend so much again

Antho · 29 Dec 2006, 12:58 (Ref:1801151)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

And where in that article, did Hartmut Kristen, say anything about pursuing or participating in P-1?!! When asked what he thought of the rules, he replied. I got no inference that Porsche was thinking of P-1!

L.P.

in fact, I have asked Mr Kristen : "Is it possible to see in a couple of years a Porsche LMP1 or a Porsche GT1?"
But unfortunately, he didn't answer this question...

AU N EGL · 3 Jan 2007, 15:43 (Ref:1805229)

"Feb 2007 Road & Track:

Want to go racing with an RS Spyder, which is said to be a half-second quicker than the 2006 car around Weissach? Well, you’d first have to be approved by Porsche as a viable team with a properly serious approach, and the car alone will set you back a cool $1.35 million. Rebuilds for the sealed engines, needed every 600 kilometers, will cost about $110,000."

OUCH

Zurbert82 · 3 Jan 2007, 15:54 (Ref:1805234)

It's amazing that Penske was able to rebuild the engines during races and still pull off victories. 600 KM is only 327 miles..

**FIRE** · 3 Jan 2007, 16:24 (Ref:1805261)

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Originally Posted by Zurbert82

It's amazing that Penske was able to rebuild the engines during races and still pull off victories. 600 KM is only 327 miles..

600 km = 372 mile

So at Sebring the engine builders of Porsche have to rebuild the engines 4 times...

Isn't this an error?

paul-collins · 3 Jan 2007, 17:18 (Ref:1805293)

Now, Road and Track wouldn't get that wrong, would they?

HORNDAWG · 4 Jan 2007, 00:55 (Ref:1805731)

Yes, one would think they must have dropped a zero off the end of that #!! As that would put it in the LeMans window. Race was 5200km +/- and testing and qualifying. So 6000km would be about right.

L.P.

MulsanneMike · 4 Jan 2007, 04:30 (Ref:1805789)

Careful reading of the R&T article sidebar on page 107 indeed indicates 600'0' km.

HORNDAWG · 7 Jan 2007, 23:54 (Ref:1809187)

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mayk:
Just spoke with Dave Maraj...."No Champion in 2007..."
Yes, it is official that Audi will be in the ALMS in 2007 to defend their title....how many and drivers were not mentioned....So I would say you can put one confirmed...

Huh. No Champion Audi in 07. I wonder if maybe we see something in this livery

on an RS Spyder perhaps? Porsche said they had some more possibilities in the ALMS!
L.P.

The Badger · 8 Jan 2007, 11:35 (Ref:1809478)

But will Champion be running the ALMS for Audi or are they put on the backburner altogether ?

Yeah , a Champion RS Spyder would look very nice indeed .

HORNDAWG · 8 Jan 2007, 17:26 (Ref:1809764)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

But will Champion be running the ALMS for Audi or are they put on the backburner altogether ?

Yeah , a Champion RS Spyder would look very nice indeed .

The only thing I really take from it is that there will not be a privateer Champion effort this year! Now if Champion want to have their own team, it would have to be in a Porsche( I presume) as that is the other half of their business. And Porsche did say there might be more RS's in the ALMS this year.

L.P.

bil588 · 13 Jun 2007, 03:52 (Ref:1935650)

not many pictures of front end

http://www.theracesite.com/client_im...ms/2650_38.jpg

The Badger · 17 Jul 2007, 16:03 (Ref:1965827)

I thought BMS were getting their hands on 2 Spyder's ..... or has that been put on hold ?

Fogelhund · 17 Jul 2007, 17:23 (Ref:1965907)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I thought BMS were getting their hands on 2 Spyder's ..... or has that been put on hold ?

I can't recall anything more than rumour in this regards so far.

HORNDAWG · 17 Jul 2007, 19:01 (Ref:1965986)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

I can't recall anything more than rumour in this regards so far.

Anything recent on or from SEBAH Racing?

L.P.

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