New engine manufacturers?

[JohnnyFiama]

Are we likely to see any new manufacturers (other than Honda) joining F1 in the next few years? Are there any rumours? BMW seem to be making quite a push with electric/hybrid cars recently.... you'd think the new 'eco-F1' would appeal to more than 4 car makers.

On a related note, apologies if it's been discussed somewhere but I couldn't find it.... what test programme will Honda have? As they're not officially in the series yet can they run an unlimited test programme? Can they use a version of the current McLaren?

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFiama

On a related note, apologies if it's been discussed somewhere but I couldn't find it.... what test programme will Honda have? As they're not officially in the series yet can they run an unlimited test programme? Can they use a version of the current McLaren?

They can't use an existing current F1 car, but they could use something else an Indy car or sportscar maybe?

Ferrari had an interesting GT test car testing last autumn, it probably had the new F1 engine in the back.

[JeremySmith]

Sounded pretty good as well...

[Formulahistory]

Don't see any new engine manufactor in the next years alongside Honda.

[chunterer]

The way Torro Rosso is being rapidly developed and becoming more independent, makes it more and more potentially interesting to a manufacturer imo.

All that investment probably isn't coming from Mateshitz and co, so either Russian interests or something a little more covert I think...

VAG has always been the firm linked to them maybe if Porsche gets to grips with WEC quickly enough then the group will pull Audi out and do something in F1 with one of the other brands.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by chunterer

VAG has always been the firm linked to them maybe if Porsche gets to grips with WEC quickly enough then the group will pull Audi out and do something in F1 with one of the other brands.

My impression is that those at the top of VW Audi want nothing to do with F1 due to how it is controled. I have seen a number of hints about this but nothing concrete.

[JacobP]

Considering the horrendous costs and slim chance for success, I don't think we're going to see more engine manufacturers. FIA should have thought hard about regulations that would effectively cap the engine development costs at a reasonable number. As is, I think we will see more companies looking at WRC and WEC in future.

[Adam43]

The way F1 is we are never going to get more than four major car manufacturers entering, not like it was back in, er, well you know, probably the seventies.

More than four is normally short lived in any series.

[321Go]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

Don't see any new engine manufactor in the next years alongside Honda.

Haven't you heard about the 'secret' Wings DM-1 V6 turbo engine project? Apparently due to make an appearance at the Red Bull Ring in June this year.

[321Go]

DM-1 V6 Turbo.

[wnut]

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns27680.html

Looks like something may be a foot with AVL.

Also apparently them thinking about pulling out of F1 is nonsense.

"Marko ruled out as "utter nonsense" speculation Red Bull could simply pull out of F1 and race elsewhere with Cosworth engines."

Cosworth engines, or racing elsewhere?

[2GRX7]

Hey, where's PURE- you know, Craig Pollocks' venture. OH PURE!! Where are you?

As soon as he said he was setting this up, I felt it was going to fail. Sad

OH, and is that an April Fools', 321GO?

[321Go]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

Don't see any new engine manufactor in the next years alongside Honda.

I wouldn't be putting money on that if I was you.
One new manufacturer yes, possibly two by 2017.

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by 2GRX7

Hey, where's PURE- you know, Craig Pollocks' venture. OH PURE!! Where are you?

As soon as he said he was setting this up, I felt it was going to fail. Sad

OH, and is that an April Fools', 321GO?

It was PURE Pollocks !

[321Go]

DM-1 V6 in 2016??