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11 May 2013, 13:46 (Ref:3245680)
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Why are ERC 1600cc and 2000cc cars separated by FWD and RWD?
As I understand the regs, you can't run a RWD car in the 1600 class nor a FWD car in the 2ltr class. What is the reasoning behind this?
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11 May 2013, 14:02 (Ref:3245686)
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Different rules.
FWD vs RWD 1.6L NA vs 2L NA |
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11 May 2013, 15:54 (Ref:3245739)
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The Super1600s class is only open to 1.6 FWD cars and was set up to bring some kind of S1600s into the ERC, while the idea behind the TouringCars was to bring rather modern SuperNationals with their spectacular RWD style into the sport. However, did not really work out, as most TCs are too compact to behave like those Swedish rear-wheel driven Volvo 240s or S40s (Mk1 and Mk2) and engines were limited to 2.0 (most SuperNational Volvos have brutal 2.9 mills).
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13 May 2013, 13:33 (Ref:3246740)
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Thanks. In terms of lap times, are the 1600 and 2ltr cars similar (notwithstanding the RWD cars would be quicker off the line)?
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13 May 2013, 17:34 (Ref:3246821)
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13 May 2013, 20:04 (Ref:3246918)
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Fastest Heat Time Super1600s Reinis Nitiss (LV) 3:15.390 Fastest Heat Time TouringCars Robin Larsson (S) 3:20.923 Montalegre: Fastest Heat Time Super1600s Kevin Eriksson (S) 2:59.630 Fastest Heat Time TouringCars Robin Larsson (S) 3:01.337 |
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16 May 2013, 13:18 (Ref:3248400)
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What are the weight limits and tyre sizes?
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16 May 2013, 13:38 (Ref:3248410)
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16 May 2013, 16:55 (Ref:3248466)
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Thanks FIRE; but I'm confused.
FIA document says all wheels limited to just under 10" wide but Supercar wheels look no larger than 8" wide. Likewise the 1600s seem to be running Super-1600 rally wheels which are 7x17. I would never have thought a FWD 1600 car would have been faster than a RWD 2 litre car from a standing start in short races despite the 100Kg weight penalty but obviously the times speak for themselves. |
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