Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Baltic Touring Car Championship Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Touring Car Racing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17 Dec 2019, 19:25 (Ref:3947217)   #126
Csaba
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Hungary
Posts: 158
Csaba should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Well, if we can beleive the rumours that Hyundai may expand to six cars, but only 2 factory backed ones, who could join as a team? And if we think logically, Audi and VW left, Honda has no factory backed team, so is it really worth for them to field 4?

1. M1RA is not a real option in my opinion, as they always struggle with budget for two cars.
2. Engstler Sport? Well if Luca does not get a factory backed ride at BRC?
3. And there is Target. They are a really strong team, having the two Backmans, who are also Hyundai "juniors", and Files won the European championship with Target, but I think he does not have the needed budget for a WTCR season, as he often said in the TCR Talk Facebook group.
Csaba is offline  
Quote
Old 18 Dec 2019, 11:29 (Ref:3947318)   #127
iceman-1987
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Italy
milan
Posts: 570
iceman-1987 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csaba View Post
Well, if we can beleive the rumours that Hyundai may expand to six cars, but only 2 factory backed ones, who could join as a team? And if we think logically, Audi and VW left, Honda has no factory backed team, so is it really worth for them to field 4?

1. M1RA is not a real option in my opinion, as they always struggle with budget for two cars.
2. Engstler Sport? Well if Luca does not get a factory backed ride at BRC?
3. And there is Target. They are a really strong team, having the two Backmans, who are also Hyundai "juniors", and Files won the European championship with Target, but I think he does not have the needed budget for a WTCR season, as he often said in the TCR Talk Facebook group.
if Hyundia would add 2 more cars i'd give to Files and Homola.
iceman-1987 is offline  
Quote
Old 18 Dec 2019, 13:34 (Ref:3947339)   #128
Csaba
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Hungary
Posts: 158
Csaba should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman-1987 View Post
if Hyundia would add 2 more cars i'd give to Files and Homola.
Well the whole idea is that it will be a "private" team, independent and with no factory support. Homola has good budget, so can join such a team, but Engstler and the two Backmans are part of the Hyundai young driver program (I'm not sure if Files is too, but he is the best driver from those mentioned).

I don't know what will be the fate of Farfus and Catsburg as both are BMW drivers "on loan" at Hyundai
Csaba is offline  
Quote
Old 18 Dec 2019, 16:16 (Ref:3947371)   #129
Mark0994
Veteran
 
Mark0994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Serbia
Belgrade
Posts: 1,018
Mark0994 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
It can't be any of those teams, since they all have manufacturer support.
Mark0994 is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Dec 2019, 09:28 (Ref:3947487)   #130
Csaba
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Hungary
Posts: 158
Csaba should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark0994 View Post
It can't be any of those teams, since they all have manufacturer support.
Well, with a smaller or reduced support they can. As BRC is basically a factory team.

Yesterday it was announced that Catsburg is joining Corvette as a factory driver for the 4 endurance races in IMSA. For me this suggests that he has left BMW, but interesting to see if this affects his WTCR program, or if he will stay at all.
Csaba is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Dec 2019, 09:36 (Ref:3947683)   #131
DaviePHD
Rookie
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 66
DaviePHD should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juarez Jed View Post
Holden have stated they are solely focused on SUVs and Light Trucks going forward.
Although prompted by having to pay Peugeot for their supply of cars, there is no stated plan to market any cars going forward apart from the Corvette which may end up an orphan in the Australian market if it arrives at all.
GM were contemplating an RHD Camaro (which was initially developed from a Holden Monaro) as a halo product for the Australian market and as a V8 Supercar Entry.

There were thoughts about rebranding it as a Holden Camaro, or perhaps Chevy being a performance sub-brand in the Aussie market. It's all a bit up in the air.

I'd love to see that happen as I love V8 Supercars, I still think it is the best touring car series in the world. It would be amazing to see Mustangs and Camaro's chasing each other all over Mount Panorama!

The recent PSA (Peugeot, Citroen, Vauxhall, Opel) and FCA (Dodge, Fiat, Chrysler, Alfa) merger may mix things up a bit more. Perhaps a Dodge Challenger could enter too?
DaviePHD is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Dec 2019, 16:22 (Ref:3947897)   #132
Evantra
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
England
Posts: 3,228
Evantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEvantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEvantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
https://bcp.crwdcntrl.net/5/c=13030/...-stay-in-doubt

Mulsanne entry unlikely....
Evantra is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Dec 2019, 12:20 (Ref:3948199)   #133
iceman-1987
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Italy
milan
Posts: 570
iceman-1987 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evantra View Post
noone will miss them. The only decent results they got only when all other teams were highly penalized.

I just hope that Ceccon will find a car for next year cause he is a very good driver.
iceman-1987 is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Dec 2019, 12:27 (Ref:3948200)   #134
Alessio
Racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Italy
London
Posts: 303
Alessio should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman-1987 View Post
noone will miss them. The only decent results they got only when all other teams were highly penalized.

I just hope that Ceccon will find a car for next year cause he is a very good driver.
As the smallest 'factory team' on the grid, by a fair margin, they did an impressive job with the Alfa. The results were helped a lot by BOP, but even so they had to work for them.
Alessio is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Dec 2019, 12:28 (Ref:3948201)   #135
Umai Naa
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,396
Umai Naa should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridUmai Naa should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
They do very well for a team that is largely funded by selling cars and parts to customer teams. There's not much in the way of external investment.
Umai Naa is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Dec 2019, 12:53 (Ref:3948203)   #136
Alessio
Racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Italy
London
Posts: 303
Alessio should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Definitely, as far as I know they didn't receive any support from Alfa financially or developmentally, so compared to the other privately developed cars they did a pretty good job overall
Alessio is offline  
Quote
Old 27 Dec 2019, 15:52 (Ref:3948692)   #137
GusGasfuss
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Germany
Ravensburg, Germany
Posts: 236
GusGasfuss should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman-1987 View Post
noone will miss them. The only decent results they got only when all other teams were highly penalized.

I just hope that Ceccon will find a car for next year cause he is a very good driver.

As far as i remember, they did some really good jobs even without penalized competitors. Of course we have to see the BoP, and the track must suit them.
But it is impressive, what Romeo Ferraris could achieve without factory backing and of course a car, which base is from 2010...
At least they outperformed the Meganes (which had maybe more factory support).


I really don't understand, why Alfa is not giving them factory backup...would be the cheapest way to go back to touring car racing (which Alfa stands for more than any other brand!).
GusGasfuss is offline  
Quote
Old 2 Jan 2020, 09:09 (Ref:3949483)   #138
Juntos
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,451
Juntos is a back marker
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alessio View Post
Definitely, as far as I know they didn't receive any support from Alfa financially or developmentally, so compared to the other privately developed cars they did a pretty good job overall
TCR 'BoP' was always kind for the car, but they went farther than I ever expect.
Juntos is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jan 2020, 09:34 (Ref:3950788)   #139
Rubio
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Ukraine
Kyiv, Ukraine
Posts: 858
Rubio should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Finally, first 4 drivers are confirmed, at Honda
http://sportmotores.com/portal/!site...20055&id=56191

Teams to be announced a bit later
Rubio is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jan 2020, 09:37 (Ref:3950789)   #140
Evantra
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
England
Posts: 3,228
Evantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEvantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEvantra should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubio View Post
Finally, first 4 drivers are confirmed, at Honda
http://sportmotores.com/portal/!site...20055&id=56191

Teams to be announced a bit later
Same 4 drivers though, so nothing too unexpected!
Evantra is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jan 2020, 15:22 (Ref:3950854)   #141
Juntos
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,451
Juntos is a back marker

I do understand why Honda kept the two Argentinians but the other two. Tiago is now old and not fast enough and Tassi is clear not a talent on the making.
Juntos is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jan 2020, 15:49 (Ref:3950859)   #142
iceman-1987
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Italy
milan
Posts: 570
iceman-1987 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juntos View Post
I do understand why Honda kept the two Argentinians but the other two. Tiago is now old and not fast enough and Tassi is clear not a talent on the making.
Completely agreed! I guess monteiro and tassi are probably full of sponsor!
iceman-1987 is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jan 2020, 19:41 (Ref:3950911)   #143
FIRE
Race Official
Veteran
 
FIRE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Netherlands
Posts: 18,739
FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!FIRE is going for a new world record!
But I think Munnich is also the better team.
FIRE is offline  
Quote
Old 10 Jan 2020, 20:29 (Ref:3950923)   #144
Csaba
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Hungary
Posts: 158
Csaba should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman-1987 View Post
Completely agreed! I guess monteiro and tassi are probably full of sponsor!
Well, Tassi has big sponsoration from Hell Energy. But do not call him bad just yet. He is still too young, maybe one more season in TCR Europe would have been better for him in 2019. The team was not doing Ok at all, and last year Coronel was bad too in the Honda. But this season will be decisive for Tassi, if he is on the wanted level.

ps: Ok, I'm hungarian but not a "blind" fan, and Tassi's season was a dissapointment, as many have anticipated before the season.


BUT: this announcement means that there will be no more than 4 Hondas, as many people said that we will see 6, with the increase of the car/manufacturer limit. Also this makes another good question: will be the 4 car/brand limit increased, or not???
Csaba is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Jan 2020, 01:09 (Ref:3950956)   #145
Purist
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
United States
Wichita, Kansas, USA
Posts: 5,892
Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!
Clearly, my focus was elsewhere when the 2020 calendar was announced.

First off, there are a few things that are total BS that need putting to bed.

In terms of "countries and territories with no motorsport tradition", Portugal and Macau do not apply. Macau has the most tradition of any notable race meeting in Asia that immediately comes to mind, having been run annually since 1954. As for Portugal, the street circuit at Vila Real, in one guise or another, has been hosting race meetings since 1931. There was also even a short-lived Estoril street circuit in the late '30s. And don't forget that Portugal hosted F1 three times in the "classic" era: Porto (1958, '60) and Monsanto Park (1959). And yes, that would be the same Circuito da Boavista that, in modified form, hosted the WTCC much more recently; the first iteration of the circuit started hosting sports cars in the early 1950s.

And don't go comparing WTCR to DTM; DTM might as well be a GT1 series by comparison. Funnily enough though, I think Zolder, which is on the DTM slate, would be better suited to these cars than Spa.

This second iteration of Marrakech has not enthused me; at least the first one had those number of long straights between the chicanes for slipstreaming. And I've never been a huge fan of the Hungaroring just generally.

Slovakia Ring simply feels too big for these cars, and I'm somewhat concerned that Aragon may give off that same sense. Algarve certainly did in the alternate years it hosted the WTCC. Sepang may give off a certain amount of the same, but it's not as bad as some others.

Ningbo is just kind of painful with how fiddly and slow it is with all those corners stacked on top of each other.

The suggested venue I can most get behind is the Austrian one; I'd love to see the WTCR head to the Salzburgring. The one question I have is how well these cars can pull the back stretch, but otherwise, I think it could be a lot of fun to watch, as long as they don't wad them up in the opening chicane. (They really should put the old road back to give the option to omit the chicane right after the initial start.)

Monza might be okay, and I'd gladly swap out Marrakech, Hungaroring, or Ningbo for it. Spa and Mugello are going to have the same issue as the Nordschleife, unfortunately. That is, these cars, the TCRs as opposed to the TC1s, are just too anemic. What I mean is, they don't have enough power relative to the drag they produce to pull those long, uphill straights (uphill being the crucial piece). When you pull out of the slipstream, you just hit a brick wall and can't make the pass.

As for an Italian round, besides Monza, I suppose Adria would be okay; I'd take it over Misano since the MotoGP changes back around 2007. Likewise, I consider the MotoGP makeover of Estoril to be awful for the cars, whether it's WTCR or ELMS.

As for the UK, again, for anything but the really fast stuff, Silverstone just seems too big to be properly filled up. Perhaps Brands Indy or Donington Nat'l, or if you're doing the long course somewhere, try something different, internationally speaking, and go for the Int'l Circuit at Oulton Park.

TBH, from where I sit, the Nordschleife, Vila Real, and Macau are easily the most interesting circuits the WTCR visits, so much so that i don't really mind the lack of overtaking. I could definitely do without the "joker lap" at Vila Real, but apart from that, let's see these guys and their machines tackle the spectacular challenge.

I will hold my verdict on Aragon until the races. However, I'm quite happy see an international series go back to Inje Autopia in South Korea. I certainly, vastly prefer it to the empty, comparatively flat expanses of Yeongam. I'd like to see higher-spec equipment give it a go again, but I think it may well not leave the TCRs too breathless on the stragiths, and some of the technical bits could be rather fun, to say nothing of the stunning scenery and elevation changes.

It definitely could be better, but I think this year overall is an improvement, though I would like to have kept Zandvoort.

Last edited by Purist; 11 Jan 2020 at 01:19.
Purist is offline  
__________________
The only certainty is that nothing is certain.
Quote
Old 11 Jan 2020, 14:01 (Ref:3951014)   #146
Csaba
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Hungary
Posts: 158
Csaba should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Purist View Post
Clearly, my focus was elsewhere when the 2020 calendar was announced.

It definitely could be better, but I think this year overall is an improvement, though I would like to have kept Zandvoort.
Don't expect too many traditions or anything like that into the calendar! Many of the races are completely dependent of marketing and some of the manufacturers and money of course. The only thing which suprises me, is the fact that there is no french round, as in 2018 almost a third of the field was french or french speaking driver, and they were represented in big numbers last year too.

Morocco is nowadays a very hyped turist destination from Europe, you see a lot of commercials of the country everywhere, even on Eurosport of course. The royal family invests a lot in the race, and there is Bennani, so they have a driver too.
There needs to be a chinese round nowadays in every series, as they are paying, even if there are no supporters at all, and the tracks are in the middle of nothing in some cases. But for the manufacturers, Asia is the main market for promotion in recent decades. And don't forget Lynk&Co of course!
About Korea I'm not completely sure, but the short course on Suzuka was trash, and they needed a replacement asian round.
Well Malaysia was epic last month, but you saw it too, that the tribunes were empty, as the locals don't really know anything about this type of racing... or at least just a really small percentage of the population.

As for other European rounds, with the addition of Spain which replaces the Netherlands, we are standing at 5, and with no round in the Americas, I don't think we will see more in the near future. The UK would be a nice addition, but they don't have a TCR Europe round either, and the reason is clear. It is called BTCC. Even if I love the BTCC, it has an unquestionable place on the top of the british motorsport pyramid, and ITV and TOCA are trying everything to keep it there. And even the fans got used to it. A friend of mine who visits 2-3 BTCC race weekends in every year, in 2018 went to Brands Hatch as DTM returned to UK, and was surprised that everything was empty. He said that there were less than a third of the people compared to that years BTCC round at Brands.
Csaba is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Jan 2020, 15:04 (Ref:3951019)   #147
iceman-1987
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Italy
milan
Posts: 570
iceman-1987 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csaba View Post
Don't expect too many traditions or anything like that into the calendar! Many of the races are completely dependent of marketing and some of the manufacturers and money of course. The only thing which suprises me, is the fact that there is no french round, as in 2018 almost a third of the field was french or french speaking driver, and they were represented in big numbers last year too.

Morocco is nowadays a very hyped turist destination from Europe, you see a lot of commercials of the country everywhere, even on Eurosport of course. The royal family invests a lot in the race, and there is Bennani, so they have a driver too.
There needs to be a chinese round nowadays in every series, as they are paying, even if there are no supporters at all, and the tracks are in the middle of nothing in some cases. But for the manufacturers, Asia is the main market for promotion in recent decades. And don't forget Lynk&Co of course!
About Korea I'm not completely sure, but the short course on Suzuka was trash, and they needed a replacement asian round.
Well Malaysia was epic last month, but you saw it too, that the tribunes were empty, as the locals don't really know anything about this type of racing... or at least just a really small percentage of the population.

As for other European rounds, with the addition of Spain which replaces the Netherlands, we are standing at 5, and with no round in the Americas, I don't think we will see more in the near future. The UK would be a nice addition, but they don't have a TCR Europe round either, and the reason is clear. It is called BTCC. Even if I love the BTCC, it has an unquestionable place on the top of the british motorsport pyramid, and ITV and TOCA are trying everything to keep it there. And even the fans got used to it. A friend of mine who visits 2-3 BTCC race weekends in every year, in 2018 went to Brands Hatch as DTM returned to UK, and was surprised that everything was empty. He said that there were less than a third of the people compared to that years BTCC round at Brands.
What i find crazy is that I hear all the time to keep costs down and then on 10 round 3 are in cities (marrakech vila real and macau) and all supporters (not blind) can see that every driver in the first 2 races of those round just think to bring the care safe in pit lane cause if they dare to overtake they risk to crash into barrier with consequence to have lots cost for the team to repair the car!

In europe we are full of circuit and country with lots tradiction and yet wtcr continue to ignore them same as for a round in south America (Argentina or Brazil)!
iceman-1987 is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Jan 2020, 22:13 (Ref:3951085)   #148
Purist
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
United States
Wichita, Kansas, USA
Posts: 5,892
Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!
Cerebrally, I get the marketing thing, but I don't really care.

I see Macau as a stand-in for China; it's a Special Autonomous Region anyway, isn't it? And no, even the WEC presently doesn't see China as absolutely essential.

The UK has BTCC while the US has NASCAR. Not really new territory there.

As for France, Pau or Dijon would work. I wouldn't subject anyone to the modern Charade.

I'm good with Inje being in there. As for Japan, it would seem like a circuit such as Sugo would be a better option for these cars than Suzuka or Motegi.

Iceman, Marrakech isn't in the same category in terms of its confines compared to the other two, or in a certain sense, the Nordschleife as well. Heck, the first half of the lap is almost like a permanent circuit in some ways.

South America would be another big trip for the series, but also, as Csaba pointed out with the UK and BTCC, Brazil has, well, Stock Car Brasil, and Argentina has Super TC2000, TRV6, and Turismo Carretera. Do either of those countries feel like they need a visit from the WTCR?

I do think the European rounds could be better distributed, like not having two races each in Iberia and Eastern Europe, and then only one more slot left.
Purist is offline  
__________________
The only certainty is that nothing is certain.
Quote
Old 12 Jan 2020, 16:21 (Ref:3951225)   #149
Csaba
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Hungary
Posts: 158
Csaba should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Purist View Post
Cerebrally, I get the marketing thing, but I don't really care.

I do think the European rounds could be better distributed, like not having two races each in Iberia and Eastern Europe, and then only one more slot left.
Unfortunately the auto market will be the decisive factor in many of the races. Travelling to Americas has also the problem of rising costs, but I would love to see just two races/weekend and a better calendar. Because as many of you wrote a few posts back, the first two races are almost all the time damage limitation and boring lapping for us, the viewers.

And there could be a WTCR/TCR Europe round in Monza and Paul Ricard too (but as many of the fans, I don't like Paul Ricard), as we had last year on the Hungaroring. I was there on both saturday and sunday and the general feeling was impressive, with 60 TCR cars (as the Eastern European Championship was also present) we felt like we are in heaven ). And the ticket for the full race weekend guaranteed you pit access after the races and near the motorhomes.

Just a general question: do the people who are at least generally interested in motorsport know about WTCR in the states? As there was a WTCC round in Sonoma a few years ago.
Csaba is offline  
Quote
Old 12 Jan 2020, 20:43 (Ref:3951249)   #150
Purist
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
United States
Wichita, Kansas, USA
Posts: 5,892
Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!Purist is going for a new world record!
I'd have to think that awareness of it here in the States is pretty darn low. I can't recall the series ever coming up in conversation at any of the race events I've attended in person. Also, at Sportscar events, where you're most likely to see TCRs as part of the IMSA support package, most of the car corrals are for luxury/performance brands (Ferrari, Porsche, etc) or performance models (Corvette).

And the layout they used at Sonoma really wasn't the best for a good showcase, to say nothing of them running the event later in the year, when the effects of the dry season there in Northern California would be most apparent. They either needed to use the 2.52-mile layout at Sears Point, or go a few hours down the coast to Laguna Seca. They'd probably consider it too far inland and/or out-of-the-way, but I actually think the VIR North Course might be good for this class of car when they're running by themselves.

Of course, it's not totally surprising. The closest we have to touring/stock cars over here that gets any visibility is NASCAR, naturally, which is most akin to V8 Supercars, or perhaps how DTM was with the V8s. The TCRs are considered an undercard even within their own series (Michelin Pilot Challenge) to an extent. And that itself is a support series for the main IMSA event. And going back to NASCAR, you see a significant drop-off in attendance and notoriety just going from Cup to the Xfinity Series.

Last edited by Purist; 12 Jan 2020 at 20:52.
Purist is offline  
__________________
The only certainty is that nothing is certain.
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[WTCC] FIA WTCR 2019 News & Rumours Racing Harz Touring Car Racing 447 20 Dec 2019 14:08
[WTCC] FIA WTCR 2018: WTCC / TCR Merger? Bramzel Touring Car Racing 1029 19 Nov 2018 22:05
FIA WTCR - Race of Germany - Rounds 7,8,9 Rubio Touring Car Racing 53 16 May 2018 10:29
FIA WTCR 2018 - Race of Hungary - Hungaroring Rubio Touring Car Racing 23 1 May 2018 08:56
[WTCR] FIA WTCR 2018 - Rounds 1, 2, 3 - Marrakech Fechna Touring Car Racing 58 19 Apr 2018 14:46


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:27.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.