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20 Feb 2008, 17:15 (Ref:2133466) | #1 | |
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Homologation Papers
A bit of a long shot but does anyone have the homologation papers for a 2.3 Vauxhall Firenza/Magnum/Viva HC? I need to check the carb types and sizes.
I've looked at the MSA web-site and I can't work out if it's going to cost me £27 or £54, plus there's three differant sets for the 2.3 and it seems like a lot of money for a very small bit of information. Blooming typical, I have all my late Dad's homolgation papers but they are for the RX7, 635CSI, Rover 3500, Opel Monza, Opal Kadett, TVR Griffith, Morgan and a few others but none for the Vauxhall!! Am happy to do a trade of info on any of the above if it helps?? |
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Hi Gregor
Papers 5565 - April 72 - main papers are GRP 1 - Twin Zenith 175CD but you don't want those Extension 9/6V - valid in Grp 1 from 1st April 1975 Twin Delorto DHLA 48's - known as kit 25177 - including manifolds and airbox in photo - also a proper 4 speed ZF box All sorts of GRP 2 goodies in other extensions as well including Old Nail style bodywork but no more carb variations |
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I thought it was Dellorto 48s but I was hoping you were going to see 48 Webers too. Oh well, the search for "reasonably-priced" Dellorto 48s goes on and I'll keep using my 45s for now. Out of interest, was the ZF homolgated not a 5 speed unit? Also, what would they have used the Group 2/Old Nail stuff in? |
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Applogises - tis a 5 speed - was hoping you could tell me when the 5cm front and rear wing extensions were used - rear has the forward air scoop and front appears bowed at the rear to form the vent - no bulging bonnet or fuel injection - but 16 valve twincam head - discs alround with vented front - twin plate clutch -Dry sump - alloy bellhousing - all Grp 2 - much more but not enough for a Grp 2 old nail family
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I do have a load of homolgation papers for Old Nail at home, plus I know who has all of Billy B's paperwork, so I'll have a look. As far as I know Group 2 ended in 1973/74 and that's when Special Saloons took over, DTV certainly didn't do any Group 2 stuff after then. |
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21 Feb 2008, 11:38 (Ref:2134075) | #6 | |
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If you had a set of papers that match Old Nail that would maybe allow use of Gabriel's car today - reincarnation of 70's racers, seems to me, has yet to include much more than Grp one and half - dry sumping and 10inch / 12 inch rims are yet to be rediscovered.
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When I get home I'll dig out, scan and e-mail what I have. If you need more I can probably get copies of the others too as the twins have all of them.
Also, have you seen this thread http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...78#post2134078 |
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24 Feb 2008, 12:21 (Ref:2136543) | #8 | |
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I had a 4 speed firenza box,it was a standard casing with straight cut gears,i assumed it was for group one! The original gears were made by jack knight,box came from gerry johnstone. Worked well,changed to 5 speed getrag which was from a vx490,various boxes could be used by changing final drive ratios. sportspart number of gear kit was45-222,ratios as follows,2.54,1.64,1.22,1.00,i cant remember which diff i ran?
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Gregor - it could be a good start - anything on the fuel injection and wheel widths? - did you find any actual homologation papers or record of it running in a group 2 or 5 race? - we have letters from WB showing front spoiler and rear deflector fitted Old Nail April 73 after running car in March for first time with the twink head.
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All of Bill's technical papers are with the DSG, so if there is anything they will have it; have you got the twins details? |
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Also (probably doesn't help though!!), Baby Bertha did some Group 2/5 races in Denmark in August 1977.
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have you got the twins details?[/quote]
No - could you please include with the scan - many thanks Think baby Bertha is another story |
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Main 5565 papers show 255 x 9.6mm disc 5565 Only papers I have copies- other papers are 5443 - 1/1/72 - Grp 1 with two amendments 5476 - 1/7/72 - Grp1 with 4 amendments 5564 - 1/4/74 - Grp 1 with 1 amendment May be some in these? |
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If you need copies of the other papers mentioned above I think I have them at home as I was sent copies of all Magnum/Firenza papers a few months ago. Let me know.
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