2016 Japanese Super GT - Page 41

hvr777 · 10 Jul 2016, 07:47 (Ref:3657934)

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Originally Posted by rjoconnell

Can I say also, Tadasuke Makino is pretty quick. How he does will be very important to Lotus' chances of winning Suzuka in GT300 - and it's been a good start for the 19-year-old Honda protege.

I want to see him drive at GT300 class with #2 Lotus alongside Hiroki Katoh outside Suzuka 1000km, his lap time seems promising. Maybe for a full season next year. The car's performance is also promising as well.

AkioAsakura95 · 11 Jul 2016, 06:10 (Ref:3658231)

I found this in the Autosport web magazine that I found In the Autosport web:

It seem that this page is related to GT300 class and the price of the all GT300 class machine. But I am not sure what the article say as shown the picture .

@Japanese Samurai (sorry i m not urging you , just share your thought)
Can you please translate this article and summarize the article as shown as below the picture????

http://www.as-web.jp/supergt/28322

Japanese Samurai · 11 Jul 2016, 15:02 (Ref:3658319)

This is the advertisement of latest Autosport magazine.
This article features "GT300 cost performance championship"

AkioAsakura95 · 11 Jul 2016, 15:07 (Ref:3658320)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

This is the advertisement of latest Autosport magazine.
This article features "GT300 cost performance championship"

it's mean that this cost as shown to the article is maintenance cost instead of car price right ???

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Japanese Samurai · 11 Jul 2016, 15:13 (Ref:3658324)

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Originally Posted by AkioAsakura95

it's mean that this cost as shown to the article is maintenance cost instead of car price right ???

No, this photo shows GT3/GT300 car price.

AkioAsakura95 · 11 Jul 2016, 15:17 (Ref:3658326)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

No, this photo shows GT3/GT300 car price.

But I can see the two price tag in that photo, the yellow one I think is GT3/GT300 car while the small one is the road car price, it's that correct??

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Japanese Samurai · 11 Jul 2016, 15:30 (Ref:3658331)

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Originally Posted by AkioAsakura95

But I can see the two price tag in that photo, the yellow one I think is GT3/GT300 car while the small one is the road car price, it's that correct??

Yes.
This article features GT3/GT300 car cost performance ranking considering sector time, top speed, qualifying result and race result.

Ranking
1. BMW M6 GT3.
2. Toyota MC86.
3. Audi R8 LMS.
4. Mercedes AMG GT3.
5. Nissan GT-R GT3.
6. Ferrari 488 GT3.
7. Lamborghini Huracan GT3.
8. Porsche GT3R.
9. Mercedes SLS GT3.

Preview
http://www.as-books.jp/books/preview.php?no=4216

AkioAsakura95 · 11 Jul 2016, 15:41 (Ref:3658336)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Yes.
This article features GT3/GT300 car cost performance ranking considering sector time, top speed, qualifying result and race result.

Ranking
1. BMW M6 GT3.
2. Toyota MC86.
3. Audi R8 LMS.
4. Mercedes AMG GT3.
5. Nissan GT-R GT3.
6. Ferrari 488 GT3.
7. Lamborghini Huracan GT3.
8. Porsche GT3R.
9. Mercedes SLS GT3.

Preview
http://www.as-books.jp/books/preview.php?no=4216

It's means that the overall specification of the GT3 car or GT300 car including price , sector time , and result right??

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Matt · 11 Jul 2016, 16:29 (Ref:3658342)

ohmygosh.

It means which car gives you best "bang for buck."

Aka, they've compared everything the cars have done on the tracks, then ranked them in comparison to how much the purchase price is to get the best value for your money.

You're making this needlessly complex.

hondafan37 · 12 Jul 2016, 00:40 (Ref:3658435)

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Originally Posted by AkioAsakura95

Now I already know that though Autosport web

According to Autosport web:
It seem that Lexus RC F GT500 has been replace by Lexus LC500 GT500 for next year and this new machine will be announce and preview the new machine on August 27 at Suzuka.

In addition, next year technical regulation for GT500 is changed as well , so they introduced the new machine.

@Japanese Samurai
Its the translation for this article is correct , if not then summarized the articles there as shown as below for the website.
http://www.as-web.jp/supergt/28087

Which is the changed in the technical regulation? Are they leaving the DTM rules? Rumors of Super GT3 in GT500 are the new rules?

rjoconnell · 12 Jul 2016, 04:57 (Ref:3658458)

http://supergt.net/tandds/entry/2016/Round4/gt500?ln=en

The entry list for Sugo dropped yesterday.

Team Direction has not confirmed why the #108 car isn't running, but we probably have a good idea by now with the legal issues surrounding Yusuke Hayashi. Those familiar who were supporters of Level 5 Motorsports can sympathize.

Tim Bergmeister is back, replacing his brother in the Excellence Porsche. Jorg's probably gonna be running IMSA at Lime Rock Park.

Shota Kiyohara quietly had a solid test and now has another race in the RunUp & DOES GT-R.

Masami Kageyama and Takayuki Aoki are back in the Mach 86 and Dijon GT-R respectively.

Audi Team Braille, still MIA.

MagVanisher · 12 Jul 2016, 06:37 (Ref:3658466)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

Which is the changed in the technical regulation? Are they leaving the DTM rules? Rumors of Super GT3 in GT500 are the new rules?

Wait, you're becoming like AkioAsakura95! But hey, he's improving like getting credible news lately.

Now then, I'm curious to see if next year's GT500 regulations will be a drastic one that GTA will move away from DTM rules. Of course, there would be consequences should they move to a souped-up version of GT3 or even GTE. After all, Bandou-san wanted GT500 to compete in Le Mans.

FormulaFox · 12 Jul 2016, 09:07 (Ref:3658491)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Now then, I'm curious to see if next year's GT500 regulations will be a drastic one that GTA will move away from DTM rules. Of course, there would be consequences should they move to a souped-up version of GT3 or even GTE. After all, Bandou-san wanted GT500 to compete in Le Mans.

I wouldn't expect a drastic shift without at least a full year's notice. Probably just some changes to the engine regulations since DTM is hesitating to align with Super GT in the engine bay.

The complete lack of even the weakest rumor that anyone is actively developing a "Super GT3" class also makes me hesitant to believe the GTA planning such a step. The idea was so well-liked by racing engineers when it was previously rumored that I would be stunned if anyone could actually keep a lid on such plans until they were ready to reveal them.

AkioAsakura95 · 12 Jul 2016, 09:20 (Ref:3658496)

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Originally Posted by FormulaFox

I wouldn't expect a drastic shift without at least a full year's notice. Probably just some changes to the engine regulations since DTM is hesitating to align with Super GT in the engine bay.

The complete lack of even the weakest rumor that anyone is actively developing a "Super GT3" idea also makes me hesitant to believe the GTA planning such a step. The idea was so well-liked by racing engineers when it was previously rumored that I would be stunned if anyone could actually keep a lid on such plans.

I absolutely agree to your opinion, because they need to meet the regulation for the joint DTM and Super GT races for next year, so they need to introduced the new GT500 vehicle by this year (for Lexus on August 27 at Suzuka to introduced the new vehicle while Honda and Nissan on final round of Motegi) by sharing with a common technical package from DTM.

And the difference between the new vehicle and the current vehicle are framework of the new vehicle , the power output of the new vehicle for next year which is 600 hp instead of 550 hp and the aerodynamics specs are improved for the new vehicle to as compared to the previous generation .

Source:
https://supergt.net/tandds/team/2016/221
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119060

MagVanisher · 12 Jul 2016, 11:25 (Ref:3658508)

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Originally Posted by FormulaFox

I wouldn't expect a drastic shift without at least a full year's notice. Probably just some changes to the engine regulations since DTM is hesitating to align with Super GT in the engine bay.

Well, there's one solution to the problem and that's using GT3 engines and let BoP take care of the rest. Of course, few people especially the big 3 Japanese makers will stick to the Nippon Racing Engine while the Germans will stick to their old V8 engines because of cost reasons.

Also, don't forget that DTM has only one tire supplier while GT500 have 2 to 4 tire manufacturers. But yeah, I don't expect a major overhaul into the top class!

Matt · 12 Jul 2016, 12:44 (Ref:3658518)

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Originally Posted by AkioAsakura95

I absolutely agree to your opinion, because they need to meet the regulation for the joint DTM and Super GT races for next year, so they need to introduced the new GT500 vehicle by this year (for Lexus on August 27 at Suzuka to introduced the new vehicle while Honda and Nissan on final round of Motegi) by sharing with a common technical package from DTM.

And the difference between the new vehicle and the current vehicle are framework of the new vehicle , the power output of the new vehicle for next year which is 600 hp instead of 550 hp and the aerodynamics specs are improved for the new vehicle to as compared to the previous generation .

Source:
https://supergt.net/tandds/team/2016/221
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119060

lol current GT500 engines are producing near 650hp if not more.

MagVanisher · 12 Jul 2016, 13:25 (Ref:3658524)

Well, they might go up to 700hp next year which would rival LMP1 cars!

rjoconnell · 12 Jul 2016, 13:27 (Ref:3658527)

James Rossiter will sit out the first hour of opening practice at Sugo on July 23 due to penalty points accumulated from the Driving Moral hazard prevention system.

Which is something that a) I didn't know existed until the penalty was announced, and b) I didn't know was in place several years before F1 and MotoGP adopted their penalty points systems!

https://supergtworld.wordpress.com/2...enalty-points/

hondafan37 · 12 Jul 2016, 16:32 (Ref:3658549)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Wait, you're becoming like AkioAsakura95! But hey, he's improving like getting credible news lately.

Now then, I'm curious to see if next year's GT500 regulations will be a drastic one that GTA will move away from DTM rules. Of course, there would be consequences should they move to a souped-up version of GT3 or even GTE. After all, Bandou-san wanted GT500 to compete in Le Mans.

GTE should be the way to go, I would like to see the GT500 teams in Le Mans.

Matt · 12 Jul 2016, 16:37 (Ref:3658550)

GTE would be a monumental slowdown from the current cars though.

hondafan37 · 12 Jul 2016, 16:46 (Ref:3658556)

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Originally Posted by Matt

GTE would be a monumental slowdown from the current cars though.

This depends on what is the result of the convergence GT.
Maybe FIA and ACO accelerate the GTE, I think it is the target.
http://sportscar365.com/gt/fia-propo...lks-to-resume/

Matt · 12 Jul 2016, 16:48 (Ref:3658557)

Current GT500 cars are between P1 and P2 speeds.

hondafan37 · 12 Jul 2016, 16:53 (Ref:3658558)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Current GT500 cars are between P1 and P2 speeds.

The rumors is that ACO wants to put GTE in LMP2 pace

MagVanisher · 12 Jul 2016, 22:07 (Ref:3658614)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

This depends on what is the result of the convergence GT.
Maybe FIA and ACO accelerate the GTE, I think it is the target.
http://sportscar365.com/gt/fia-propo...lks-to-resume/

Well, I was about to say that earlier.

But yes, the convergence will affect both classes. Although I believe that there's little effect in GT300 because of its native GT300 cars as well as the Mother Chassis ones.

Artur · 13 Jul 2016, 14:29 (Ref:3658684)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Current GT500 cars are between P1 and P2 speeds.

In a few years time, the GT500 will get faster than LMP1-Hs as ACO will reduce downforce for next year and fuel energy on year-to-year basis.

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