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Old 25 Oct 2018, 20:18 (Ref:3859159)   #136
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Old 25 Oct 2018, 22:06 (Ref:3859180)   #137
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Reads like the specs of a hatchback, not an SUV.

IIRC, that would be too small to be eligible for btcc regs?
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Old 25 Oct 2018, 22:14 (Ref:3859183)   #138
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Without any scale I'd have said it was the newest version of a Golf on oversize rims
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Old 26 Oct 2018, 05:05 (Ref:3859240)   #139
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Without any scale I'd have said it was the newest version of a Golf on oversize rims
It's closer to the size of a Polo!
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Old 26 Oct 2018, 20:27 (Ref:3859334)   #141
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Old 25 Nov 2018, 14:33 (Ref:3865746)   #142
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It's claimed to be more off-road capable than the Pilot.

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Old 3 Dec 2018, 16:47 (Ref:3867665)   #144
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I liked the old Soul. It was different enough to be funky but not different enough to be horrible. This one straddles the wrong side of that line.
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I liked the old Soul. It was different enough to be funky but not different enough to be horrible. This one straddles the wrong side of that line.
Particularly in that colour.
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I liked the old Soul. It was different enough to be funky but not different enough to be horrible. This one straddles the wrong side of that line.
Iíve got a hi-viz that colour!

Itís almost as if Kia thought- ďWe sold a reasonable number of the previous model, so if we make it less odd / funky weíll sell more.......Ē

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Am I the only person on the planet that doesn't get the point of SUV's?

The basic rule seems to be - take a hatchback, make it taller, increase ride height add general chunkiness. So basically you get a heavier, worse handling car - that costs more to buy, more to run and has no advantages over the equivalent sized hatchback.

What am I missing?
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Am I the only person on the planet that doesn't get the point of SUV's?

The basic rule seems to be - take a hatchback, make it taller, increase ride height add general chunkiness. So basically you get a heavier, worse handling car - that costs more to buy, more to run and has no advantages over the equivalent sized hatchback.

What am I missing?
Higher ride height improves visibility and it gives the illusion of safety. I like driving the work van because of the visibility. And to be honest, whilst we here are sensitive to things like handling, most people aren't - they just want a vehicle that drives at 70mph and goes around corners. SUVs fit that.

Not saying it's a good idea, but for most it works.
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Higher ride height improves visibility and it gives the illusion of safety. I like driving the work van because of the visibility. And to be honest, whilst we here are sensitive to things like handling, most people aren't - they just want a vehicle that drives at 70mph and goes around corners. SUVs fit that.

Not saying it's a good idea, but for most it works.
I always feel liking I'm sitting on an SUV rather than in it. Not a fan of high driving position - it's like driving a van

Height aside, the extra weight means that fuel consumption is worse, acceleration is worse, braking is worse. The safety aspect is also, as you say, an illusion.

A friend has a Ford Kuga - I was surprised how little space there is inside it given how big it is.
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