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Old 19 Feb 2016, 11:30 (Ref:3615959)   #101
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I'm impressed Portugal can sustain its own series. How many usable tracks do they have?
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Old 19 Feb 2016, 11:47 (Ref:3615961)   #102
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Estoril and Portimao come to mind, which are proper racing tracks.
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Old 19 Feb 2016, 12:09 (Ref:3615968)   #103
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Portuguese series will also run in Braga, Vila Real and Jerez.
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Old 19 Feb 2016, 12:56 (Ref:3615976)   #104
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That's not too shabby. I like Vila Real.
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 19:31 (Ref:3617102)   #105
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I'll get to see the International Series at the WEC Spa event.. what sort of grid size is expected??
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Old 24 Feb 2016, 19:24 (Ref:3617448)   #106
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BoP Test at Valencia from 14.03 - 15.03
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Old 25 Feb 2016, 01:29 (Ref:3617541)   #107
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I'll get to see the International Series at the WEC Spa event.. what sort of grid size is expected??
We have 15 cars confirmed at this point, without a Belgian team announcing its plans on friday and without any Alfa Romeo, Subaru or Ford (which are all expected).
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Old 25 Feb 2016, 19:06 (Ref:3617756)   #108
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The calendar has been modified: on 28 August there will be the Buriram round, instead of Shanghai (with the Thailand series). So there will be 11 rounds.
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Old 25 Feb 2016, 22:07 (Ref:3617809)   #109
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We have 15 cars confirmed at this point, without a Belgian team announcing its plans on friday and without any Alfa Romeo, Subaru or Ford (which are all expected).
Thanks. Should be worth watching then.
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Old 26 Feb 2016, 19:13 (Ref:3618063)   #110
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Stefano Comini and Jean Karl Vernay with WRT VW Golf in the TCR Int.
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Old 26 Feb 2016, 20:15 (Ref:3618074)   #111
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Woah, killer team!
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Old 26 Feb 2016, 20:30 (Ref:3618078)   #112
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Finally a good news, the entry list is still too uncertain...
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Old 26 Feb 2016, 20:45 (Ref:3618082)   #113
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Finally a good news, the entry list is still too uncertain...
I have no doubt the entry list will be good.
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Old 26 Feb 2016, 21:15 (Ref:3618090)   #114
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TCR Questions

I have a lot of questions on TCR that I was hoping someone might be able to answer:

How do the regulations for building a car work?

Is it the manufacturers themselves or can independent teams build and then sell different models, so long as they have approval from the relevant manufacturer?

Am I correct in saying that only one model from one manufacturer can be present on the grid?

What are the real costings, not the idealistic ones (see NGTC), for either a: building or b: buying a car? Finally how "good", in the context of other series, are the running costs?
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Old 27 Feb 2016, 09:06 (Ref:3618184)   #115
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I have a lot of questions on TCR that I was hoping someone might be able to answer:
Well, I can try answer some of your questions, though I am not an insider, so everything I am writing should be available somewhere on the net/be deduced by common sense from available information. There are some people on here that are a bit more knowledgeable, so they should of course feel free to correct me!

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Is it the manufacturers themselves or can independent teams build and then sell different models, so long as they have approval from the relevant manufacturer?
The series has - by Mr. Lotti's acknowledgement - been modeled after GT3, so I'd think that cars are either manufacturer-built (Seat, VW, Opel) or produced by manufacturer-approved tuners. For each model of car there can only be one tuner (though I'd think there would be some grandfathering should a manufacturer decide to take a project " in house" later on.)

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Just going by how things are done in GT3, I think there could be more than one model (as we have seen in GT3 with the Ford Mustang/GT and Lamborghini Gallardo/Huracan). It seems however rather unlikely to me since most manufacturers don't have too many different models that fit the series' homologation criteria and of course the manufacturer in question would need to approve it.

So to sum things up: There can only be one type of Opel Astra in the series, but one could build an Insignia if one could get the approval from Rüsselsheim.

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Most cars have an official sales price of around 100k €.... though I am not sure what exactly that gets you and how much more you'd have to spend on spares, etc. A lot also depends on which series you are running. International will have more expenses for travelling, if you do the Benelux-series with 140 minutes of racing per weekend, you'd spend a good deal more on consumables.

Edit: If you wanna do some further researching, the TCR-Benelux website has the spares catalog for the Civic and some information on engine maintenance cost for the Leon:
http://www.tcrbenelux.eu/docs.aspx
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Old 3 Mar 2016, 16:28 (Ref:3619571)   #116
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Well, I can try answer some of your questions, though I am not an insider, so everything I am writing should be available somewhere on the net/be deduced by common sense from available information. There are some people on here that are a bit more knowledgeable, so they should of course feel free to correct me!


The series has - by Mr. Lotti's acknowledgement - been modeled after GT3, so I'd think that cars are either manufacturer-built (Seat, VW, Opel) or produced by manufacturer-approved tuners. For each model of car there can only be one tuner (though I'd think there would be some grandfathering should a manufacturer decide to take a project " in house" later on.)


Just going by how things are done in GT3, I think there could be more than one model (as we have seen in GT3 with the Ford Mustang/GT and Lamborghini Gallardo/Huracan). It seems however rather unlikely to me since most manufacturers don't have too many different models that fit the series' homologation criteria and of course the manufacturer in question would need to approve it.

So to sum things up: There can only be one type of Opel Astra in the series, but one could build an Insignia if one could get the approval from Rüsselsheim.


Most cars have an official sales price of around 100k €.... though I am not sure what exactly that gets you and how much more you'd have to spend on spares, etc. A lot also depends on which series you are running. International will have more expenses for travelling, if you do the Benelux-series with 140 minutes of racing per weekend, you'd spend a good deal more on consumables.

Edit: If you wanna do some further researching, the TCR-Benelux website has the spares catalog for the Civic and some information on engine maintenance cost for the Leon:
http://www.tcrbenelux.eu/docs.aspx
That's perfect. Thanks. Very interesting, think I understand the rule-set a lot better now.
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So Münnich Motorsport Witz a Civic in the TCR Int.?
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There are B3 SEATs, Leopard VW, Subaru WRX, Alfa Giulietta and Peugeot 308
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The Opel is also there
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Tim Zimmermann (Engstler Golf, ADAC TCR, TCR Europe and 1 Race TCR Int.) is also there.
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Tim Zimmermann (Engstler Golf, ADAC TCR, TCR Europe and 1 Race TCR Int.) is also there.
Thanks Honda is also there
Only missing Ford, maybe Focus will be there tomorrow.
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Here is list of drivers on TCR site
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Only missing Ford, maybe Focus will be there tomorrow.
AFAIK, no BoP test means no TCR...
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Jordi Oriola will drive an Opel Astra from Target Competition.
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