'V8Supercar' to become 'Supercar'?? - Page 2

peckstar · 12 Dec 2013, 21:06 (Ref:3343328)

V8s will roll on despite Holden's withdrawal

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As for V8 Supercars moving away from V8 engines, the core of its appeal for nearly 20 years, or dropping V8 from the title to allow other engine configurations, such a departure is not on the agenda.

Downoz · 13 Dec 2013, 00:59 (Ref:3343429)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

This is the problem with Phelps.

He is basically a PR writer for V8SA (pushing press releases and agenda's designed by V8SA).

He has no knowledge of the sport as highlighted by his comment about Australia's 3rd largest sport & fastest growing sport BS.

That was the difference with Peter McKay, at least he had the nuts to write negative things about Cocko and the series. At least Peter had knowledge of car racing and would write what he thought, not what he was told to.

**GTRMagic** · 13 Dec 2013, 01:08 (Ref:3343432)

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Originally Posted by Downoz

That was the difference with Peter McKay, at least he had the nuts to write negative things about Cocko and the series. At least Peter had knowledge of car racing and would write what he thought, not what he was told to.

No, Mr McKay wrote the antithesis of anything positive or anything good to say about V8Supercar. His agenda is poisonous....

naca · 13 Dec 2013, 01:22 (Ref:3343441)

Keeping the V8 formula is probably the easiest thing to do. An awful lot of equalization would need to be done if say Holden moved to a V6, Ford used a turbocharged ecoboost, Volvo used a inline 5 diesel, ect, ect. Can you imagine how much *****ing and moaning would occur up and down pitlane if this happened. Would also stop the manufacturers having to put coin down to develop the new engines.

Matt · 13 Dec 2013, 01:29 (Ref:3343449)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

V8s will roll on despite Holden's withdrawal

good.

D.R.T. · 13 Dec 2013, 02:13 (Ref:3343467)

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Originally Posted by naca

Keeping the V8 formula is probably the easiest thing to do. An awful lot of equalization would need to be done if say Holden moved to a V6, Ford used a turbocharged ecoboost, Volvo used a inline 5 diesel, ect, ect.

I know, it would almost be interesting with the variety and alternatives - not the one size fits all mentality at the moment.

It would also be representative of the cars the manufacturers build which would be novel

GTR - didnt McKay just win an V8 Media award??

one five five · 13 Dec 2013, 06:07 (Ref:3343520)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

No, Mr McKay wrote the antithesis of anything positive or anything good to say about V8Supercar. His agenda is poisonous....

The Phelps and Lomas 'cheerleading' is just as bad though.

At least Mckay offered a different view.

Downoz · 13 Dec 2013, 06:50 (Ref:3343528)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

No, Mr McKay wrote the antithesis of anything positive or anything good to say about V8Supercar. His agenda is poisonous....

Well why wouldnt he write (antihesis) that is your big word, I am obviously not as smart as you although I am am sure I am, I dont even read the dribble that Phelps writes.(that proves I am smarter). I certainly know who I would like on my side in a situation, Phelps, McKay or you and I am sure I would rather McKay, at least he has balls and says what he thinks.

rik · 14 Dec 2013, 23:06 (Ref:3344146)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

No, Mr McKay wrote the antithesis of anything positive or anything good to say about V8Supercar. His agenda is poisonous....

He seems to have backed off the negativity since the demise of Cochrane.

Tourer · 15 Dec 2013, 01:05 (Ref:3344178)

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Originally Posted by rik

He seems to have backed off the negativity since the demise of Cochrane.

Agree - neither of them did themselves any credit in their ongoing war of words etc.

Now that TC is gone, much of the catty waspishness of Mr. MKay's previous reporting on V8's has gone and he's publishing a more balanced approach.

**GTRMagic** · 15 Dec 2013, 01:18 (Ref:3344186)

Mr McKay's answer seems to be to build yet another category for turbo engines... Here

Forda · 15 Dec 2013, 01:32 (Ref:3344189)

Australian Touring Car Series

Shortens to: Au To Car

or AUTOCAR Series

They can pay me in bitcoin by PM if any good

peckstar · 15 Dec 2013, 02:53 (Ref:3344193)

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Originally Posted by david5

It's already the ATCC anyway, just get rid of the DC Comics PR title. 3rd biggest sport, hmm Phelps hasn't been to the soccer lately.

Biggest sport actually, by average crowd size
or 3rd biggest by attandance

V8 Supercars produce the highest average crowd, eclipsing AFL and NRL in 2013

david5 · 15 Dec 2013, 04:18 (Ref:3344200)

Really, you're quoting Mr Phelps, really ?

peckstar · 15 Dec 2013, 04:26 (Ref:3344202)

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Originally Posted by david5

Really, you're quoting Mr Phelps, really ?

doesnt make it wrong

play the ball, not the man

one five five · 15 Dec 2013, 10:47 (Ref:3344249)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

doesnt make it wrong

play the ball, not the man

Who supplied the figures?

Remember also if you bought a 3-day ticket to Bathurst you get counted 3 times even if you never go, by a ticket to an AFL/NRL match you are only counted once.

The best one comes from Warburton right at the end, the Sydney 500 attracted its worst crowd ever according to the article...yet it was supposedly a success??

And closest season on record? It was close certainly, but others have been much closer.

How can Phelps seriously put his name to this stuff?

peckstar · 15 Dec 2013, 11:16 (Ref:3344254)

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Originally Posted by one five five

Who supplied the figures?

Remember also if you bought a 3-day ticket to Bathurst you get counted 3 times even if you never go, by a ticket to an AFL/NRL match you are only counted once.

The best one comes from Warburton right at the end, the Sydney 500 attracted its worst crowd ever according to the article...yet it was supposedly a success??

And closest season on record? It was close certainly, but others have been much closer.

How can Phelps seriously put his name to this stuff?

which championships have been closer?

D.R.T. · 15 Dec 2013, 11:26 (Ref:3344257)

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Originally Posted by one five five

How can Phelps seriously put his name to this stuff?

I guess it's because he doesn't actually have any understanding of Motorsport or the content he has been supplied.

What's worse is Warburton - does he actually believe any of that because its so far from reality that if true, they are not in good shape

peckstar · 15 Dec 2013, 11:34 (Ref:3344258)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

I guess it's because he doesn't actually have any understanding of Motorsport or the content he has been supplied.

What's worse is Warburton - does he actually believe any of that because its so far from reality that if true, they are not in good shape

do you actually believe any of that because its so far from reality that if true

see i can say things as well, however without any facts im just making stuff up, same as what you appear to be doing.

do you have any facts, because warburton and phelps have facts. maybe you can disprove them

D.R.T. · 15 Dec 2013, 11:44 (Ref:3344262)

So the sport with a record low attendance at its marquee event, with 2013 showing TV companies with the least interest since 1996 - this is the strongest V8s have ever been??????

The way v8sa count crowds are criminal, misleading and aren't consistent with the other major codes.

peckstar · 15 Dec 2013, 11:49 (Ref:3344265)

they had a record crowd at its marquee event. sold out, couldn't buy a ticket

however at a newish event that they are trying to grow the crowd was down. but tv coverage was higher

now if you could provide some facts, your very good at strawmen

**FIRE** · 15 Dec 2013, 11:59 (Ref:3344271)

The Toyota Camry and Ford Fusion road cars are not available with RWD and V8 engine. Despite that it's no problem for these brands to race a RWD V8 powered car in NASCAR. Why would it be a problem (except for the name) for V8 Supercars?

NaBUru38 · 15 Dec 2013, 13:55 (Ref:3344293)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Biggest sport actually, by average crowd size
or 3rd biggest by attandance

V8 Supercars produce the highest average crowd, eclipsing AFL and NRL in 2013

You should add crowds, not average them. Team sports have an advantqge because of the high number of matches.

Matt · 15 Dec 2013, 18:05 (Ref:3344341)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

The Toyota Camry and Ford Fusion road cars are not available with RWD and V8 engine. Despite that it's no problem for these brands to race a RWD V8 powered car in NASCAR. Why would it be a problem (except for the name) for V8 Supercars?

Neither do the Nissan Altima or Volvo S60.

**FIRE** · 15 Dec 2013, 19:45 (Ref:3344364)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Neither do the Nissan Altima or Volvo S60.

Yes, so I don't see the problem.

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