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Old 9 Aug 2014, 16:58 (Ref:3442762)   #226
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Old 10 Aug 2014, 05:19 (Ref:3442930)   #227
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So you have no interest in who has driven well in other races, you only want to know if anyone has driven badly? Good grief.
That about sums it up. The first thing we all do when we get MSA News is turn to the tribunal cases at the back, see if anyone we know is mentioned.
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Old 10 Aug 2014, 06:19 (Ref:3442937)   #228
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That about sums it up. The first thing we all do when we get MSA News is turn to the tribunal cases at the back, see if anyone we know is mentioned.
That's about the only interesting part of it, the rest is drivel. I like reading the karting tribunals about whose dad has hit or abused anyone, it never seems to be the kids at fault.
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Old 10 Aug 2014, 06:41 (Ref:3442941)   #229
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That's about the only interesting part of it, the rest is drivel. I like reading the karting tribunals about whose dad has hit or abused anyone, it never seems to be the kids at fault.
Bit like reading the Sun, only one page worth turning to?...

Interfering Dads the same in any sport! If left to the kids they would sort it out amongst themselves. Come to think of it, isn't that what Lauda suggested for F1? Stop Dads (the stewards) interfering and let them sort any issues out amongst themselves?
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Old 10 Aug 2014, 15:42 (Ref:3443063)   #230
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Having an idle Sunday afternoon I've been browsing through this years HSCC results at disciplinary announcements.
One instance took my attention, during a meeting a competitor whose race number had been broadcast several times in observers radio messages in connection with contact incidents was excluded from the results for "Driving in a manner incompatible with general safety, and/or departing from the standard of a reasonably competent driver".
Driving standards are being monitored, however observers only have one pair of eyes and they don't rotate continually through 360 degrees. If we see it, it's reported; remember though, HSCC racing has always been hard, fair, respectful and close so some rubbing is inevitable, the individual decision by observers is; "was that rubbing or contact". I think I'm stricter than most but will still differentiate, in my opinion, between a racing incident or unintentional / intention contact.
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Old 11 Aug 2014, 08:35 (Ref:3443417)   #231
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That about sums it up. The first thing we all do when we get MSA News is turn to the tribunal cases at the back, see if anyone we know is mentioned.
So true! Or to read the graphic details of how father-of-7-year-old-Dwayne-grabbed-father-of-7-year-old-Brooklyn-by-the-throat, shouting "If your son goes near my son on the track again, I'll F*****g kill you", etc, etc.....

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Old 11 Aug 2014, 10:49 (Ref:3443451)   #232
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Do we assume the boys names to have been changed? Or do the both come from Essex?
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Old 11 Aug 2014, 12:31 (Ref:3443463)   #233
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As most of us know this business of fathers threatening other fathers in schoolboy events happens right across the sporting spectrum from tiddlywinks to football and probably every type of motorsport.
I remember a couple having a serious punch up on the track at a schoolboy scramble while the race was going on around them, the funny thing was that the two kids that had come together that had caused the "altercation" had both got going and rode round the pair for the next couple of laps !
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Interesting point about the stresses Oliver Gavin has to endure,which is why I specifically mentioned historic cars.
Back in the 80s racing similar cars in Imsa to the Vette we had no cool suits or power steering as poorer teams, and I well remember a 3 hour street race in Florida when half the field ended up in the medical centre with heat exhaustion.The only thing that got you to the end of the race was the adrenalin you mentioned, then you simply blacked out.Not fun.
I was close to that after 15 hard minutes at Cadwell (see my video) hence last lap mistake it was just physical exhaustion. I must confess in the next race that unfortunately only lasted under 3 laps because of suspension failure I didnt wear the non mandatory (in UK) underwear and felt a whole lot better. BTW I do get to the gym twice or three times a week and work out hard for an hour.
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Do we assume the boys names to have been changed? Or do the both come from Essex?
Perhaps it's me but karting sons never seem to be called Michael, David, Peter or Christopher......rather nearly always some sort of AustralioEssex combination like, for instance.....Dyer, Mitch, Dwayne, Tiger, Cam, etc.
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Old 13 Aug 2014, 09:19 (Ref:3443919)   #236
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At last weekend's BRSCC Anglesey meeting a couple of drivers were shown the black & white flag. When Race Control asked for the black & white flag to be displayed to the drivers in question they added: "& make sure all the drivers see it". . . a subtle(ish) way of reminding everybody that driving standards were being taken seriously.
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